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I've encountered a dilemma which I'm hoping some people here might be able to help me with. I'm part of a group here at school that has a couple vegetable oil powered school buses that have been touring the country for the last two years. They have been completely rebuilt, from the green paint to the living and sleeping space inside. Two weeks ago, the school had a federal DOT compliance review for all of its vehicles (150+), and we ran into some trouble with the buses. For now, we'll focus on the bus in my signature.



We have it registered through the state of NH as a motorhome, with a 24,000lb GVWR and a 15 passenger limit, so as to avoid requiring all the drivers to obtain a CDL with a passenger endorsement. However, this is only on paper, and there is still a tag on the inside that says 71 passenger, and another that says it is classified as a school bus with a 29,000lb GVWR. Upon noticing this, the DOT inspector grounded us on the spot, telling our entire crew we needed to get commercial licenses, or go to the manufacturer and get new tags made up. Unfortunately, Bluebird won't make new tags, they simply said remove the old ones. The DOT didn't like that, but couldn't give us a clear answer as to what we needed to do, other than get new tags, which can't happen. I've tried a number of different things, talking to the DMV, DOT, highway patrol, you name it... and still haven't made any progress. Each department sends me back to someone else in another department. At the moment, I'm waiting for a highway patrol officer to hopefully come and officially reclassify the bus as a motorhome.



I was just wondering if anyone here has converted a school bus to a motorhome and had to deal with this. It's such a simple little thing. If I had only been smart enough to pull the original tags and paint over where they had been, then we could have avoided all this, but now the DOT guy has pictures of the tags and seems happier to shut us down rather than help us out. We're leaving for a 10 week trip in two weeks, so we're getting down to the wire.



Any ideas?
 
The only thing I can think of is to start with what Bluebird told you about simply removing the tags. Make sure you get it from them in writing. Get EVERYTHING in writing. It may take time, but without documentation you probably will not get far at all.



There must be some way to reclassify that vehicle. Old school buses are rather popular here for various projects, such as shortening the body by moving the back body cap up close to the front and adding a flatbed on the back for hauling hay or race cars. Years ago we used to see quite a few that had been converted to RVs, or mobile deer hunting shacks, but not so much any more. Granted it may also be easier to reclassify a vehicle in some states than in others.



On edit: Another good thing may be some photos of the inside demonstrating that the interior has been modified and that there is no physical way that you can haul more than 15 passengers. Just a thought.
 
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How many people were in the RV/bus when they 1st check/caught you ? if your running around with a bunch of people than its a bus , if your driving around with a few & RVing , its an RV , They are going to stick to your *** if they think that your trying to get away with something .
Maybe they just had a situation that got there chestnuts in a vice , so they are not going there again , or they are just holes .
I've done it 6-8 times in a couple states , then driven through many states , and a few times with a punch of people , hasn't been an issue yet .
One thing that mad is easier , was the dealer I bought it from filled out the forms , that may not help you at this time but it has been done a lot .
 
This has been an issue here in Virginia also, when we sell buses we read a disclaimer to the same effect. Yes, people do convert them and have no problem, but we have heard that others were required to get a CDL with passenger endorcement. You are probably never going to resovle the problem as long as the bus is part of a fleet.
 
Go to a place that engraves trophies. Have them make you up a new plate a little bigger then the old one. rivet it in place where the old one was. :)
 
You might consider getting a cdl - anyone who operates a large vehicle, and yes, that includes motor homes and rvs - would benefit from the learning process...
 
Making your own nameplate might work. I had a Japanese sail boat without a manufacturers nameplate. Caliofornia insisted that I have one, so I took a small copper plate and used a vibra tool to engrave a nameplate. This satisfied California.
 
This may be questionable from an ethics standpoint but here goes. License that thing in a State with little to no care for such petty BS. You clearly were not set-up for 71 passengers, the tag being the only clue for the nittpicky Gov't man. Not sure I like it but States like South Dakota are so hungry for money they'll license out of state RV's day after day, there is a procedure but I can't qoute it for you.
 
Having done a conversion or two I always opted to go the route of requesting from SOS that a State Trouper be sent out to inspect my CUSTOM vehicle for classification purposes. Have never had a problem. I don't think this process is different in any of the states.
 
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