SeaFoam yes / no?

[CPittman]

https://www.turbodieselregister.com/news/index.php#oxynews-168



TDR Headlines Press Release - Fuel System Conditioners



The last line in the first paragraph, 'The alcohol and acetone cause rapid wear to internal fuel pump and injector parts. '



Just curious - because SeaFoam smells like pure alcohol...



Guess I'll stick to the PS and MMO cocktail - PS smells just like Stanadyne. Maybe I should stop sniffing stuff, huh?

 

[Buffalo]

On the back of the can of Sea Foam Motor Treatment, it says: "A 100% pure petroleum product for use in all gasoline and diesel type engines, both 2 and 4 cycle. OXYGEN SENSOR SAFE. "



Near the bottom of the can, it says: "Contains Pet. Distillate (CAS 64742-89-8); Pet. Oil (CAS 64742-52-5); 2-Propanol CAS (67-63-0). "



The product part number is SF-16.



I just took a sniff from inside the can & it does smell like alcohol. A couple of olives & it might not make a bad martini!!!



Joe F. (Buffalo)

 

[DavidC]

There went another 1k brain cells :-laf



Dave

 

[Sleepy Creek]

Previous Posts have said the MDS says it contains alcohol which is not good in our engines.



Search on "Foam" and you can find the posts buried inthere.

 

[Buffalo]

Hi Dave,



Yea! I think I'm down to about twelve cells, left. However, I was willing to donate (read: sacrifice) the last thousand cells, in the interest of science.



I, also, sent an e-mail, to Sea Foam, asking if they include alcohol/acetone in their product. If, and when, I receive an answer, I'll let you all know what they have to say.



Joe F. (Buffalo)

 

[CPittman]

Well, good investigative work there Joe... If the ingredient is 2-Propanol, or Propanol-2 that is isopropyl alcohol, better known as "rubbing alcohol". So, err, well... guess I'll forego the use of SeaFoam for now... and you might want to just eat the olives and skip the SeaFoam martini! I do applaud your creative use of fuel additives though!



Cheers!

 

[azpete]

I have had a couple bottles of the stuff for awhile and was wondering weather to use it or not. Joe - maybe if we could save it for the next group meet at Eloy with snacks and open bar.

 

[Msilbernagel]

2-Propanol = Isopropyl Alcohol = Petroleum distillate... the essence of marketing often includes a gentle misleading to guide you to the proper belief without flat out misstating the truth.



Get this (Origins of Isopropyl Alcohol) : "Isopropyl alcohol does not occur naturally.

It is produced from propene by indirect hydration in a

complex process known as "strong-acid process" or by

direct catalytic reduction of acetone.



It is said that in 1920, Standard Oil Company (later

Exxon) scientists in Linden, New Jersey, were trying

to invent useful products from gasoline by-products.

They produced isopropyl alcohol, or rubbing alcohol.

Isopropyl alcohol was the first commercial

petrochemical (chemicals made from oil) ever made and

became the new ExxonMobil Chemical Company's first

product.



http://inventors. about.com/od/invent... hive_seven.htm"



-end insert



So Sea Foam is 100% pure petroleum product AND it contains a significant amount of Isopropyl alcohol. All that and they recommend it for diesels. Perhaps the other ingredients are there to maintain or improve lubricity. Otherwise, the product liability thing would've eaten them alive by now... ?



FYI - Mark

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On the back of the can of Sea Foam Motor Treatment, it says: "A 100% pure petroleum product for use in all gasoline and diesel type engines, both 2 and 4 cycle. OXYGEN SENSOR SAFE. "



Near the bottom of the can, it says: "Contains Pet. Distillate (CAS 64742-89-8); Pet. Oil (CAS 64742-52-5); 2-Propanol CAS (67-63-0). "



The product part number is SF-16.



I just took a sniff from inside the can & it does smell like alcohol. A couple of olives & it might not make a bad martini!!!



Joe F. (Buffalo)

 

[Buffalo]

AZPETE,



I'll bring a Punch Bowl, & we can combine our Sea Foam.



I just received an e-mail from Mr. Dale Lackore, Nat'l Sales Mgr. , Sea Foam Sales Co. I had asked whether Sea Foam contained any alcohol or acetone.



His reply is: "Fast answer-NO. Long answer- about 1/2 Penetrant/Lubricant (pale oil), about 1/3 naptha parts solvent, About 15% Isopropanal.

All three- Petroleum distillates. Non-harmful to paints, plastics, seals, etc.

You can refer to the MSDS sheet on the website. "



I was going to ask those of you with backgrounds in chemical make-ups, if Isopropanal is another term for Isopropyl alcohol? However, some of you guys beat me to it.



The wisdom & knowledge, on these sites, is sometimes amazing. Without you folks, we would be "subject" to whatever the manufacturers want us to believe.



THANK YOU!!!



Joe F. (Buffalo)

 

[Buffalo]

I e-mailed Mr. Dale Lackore, of Sea Foam Sales Co. again, asking if the 15%Isopropanol was, in fact, alcohol.



His answer was:



"Both terms are used for the same thing-the petroleum distillate that removes (brakes down) moisture. The term alcohol, most generally, is referring to the distilling of grain, such as corn. The difference is one being rotten corn stalks and the other dead dinosaurs.



Hope this clears it up.



Dale Lackore"





It appears, to me, that the product has what we refer to as alcohol, in it. However, it seems to be cleverly disguised with another name.



Joe F. (Buffalo)

 

[CPittman]

Well, Dale's right... dead dinosaurs make rubbing alcohol or isopropynol (shown on their can as an ingredient in SeaFoam) and distilled grain (corn, rye, etc. ) or potatoes, or 'trash' makes ethanol.



Ethanol will make you go blind for a while if you drink it, and isopropynol will make you go blind forever.



So, he's right... they're both 'alcohol' in lay terms, but according to the TDR Headlines Press Release on Fuel Conditioners in the initial post - none of it belongs in the HPCR fuel system.



Now, what say we hoist a cool one and put the SeaFoam in the lawn mower.

 

[Buffalo]

10-4, CPittman,



Won't be the first time I drank out of a lawnmower fuel tank!!!



Joe F. (Buffalo)

 

[RRees]

I'm glad I read this post before I poured some seafoam in my Ram.



Looks like my Jeep will get some more fuel additives this week instead of the truck.

At least it was on sale for $4. 00.

 

[azpete]

Same here, stuff has been sitting on the shelf for months and months. So I bought a jeep to pour it into.

 

[fkovalski]

I kinda' recall that when I had a ... "carbon build- up related issue... " that the dealer was going to use a de- carbon ization product called "BD" or something like that. This was a dealer used item (although I recall it was also an aftermarket product... ?)



Any comment on this as an alternative to Sea Foam... ?