Server is too busy! You have too many characters!

[mikepvg]

Half the time I get:



1) "The server is too busy"



2) "You have too many characters" (Why are we restricted to 10,000 characters?)



3) "Your search does not have min word length"



4) Keep getting TDR home page on internal thread links



I am so glad I'm not a new member or started my new diesel search now. I might have bought a Ford!!! Ooops, did I say that?

 

[admin2]

Originally posted by mikepvg

Have the time I get:

1) "The server is too busy"

The problem is (mostly) gone now. The current server is upgraded as high as it will go. We're going to be replacing it with a new one at end of the month.

2) "You have too many characters" (Why are we restricted to 10,000 characters?)

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The average type-written page is 2,000 characters. If you can't say it with 5 pages, perhaps it need to be reworded? Just a thought. The reason why the limit... . there has to be some limit. Otherwise someone could post the encyclopedia.

3) "Your search does not have min word length"

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Searches that include 3 letter or smaller words would cause the search index to be larger than the size of the hard drive the forum is on.

4) Keep getting TDR home page on internal thread links

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I'm not sure what you mean.



Thank you for your patience and understanding through this transition.





Ken

TDR Admin

 

[klenger]

It seems that any post over 10,000 chacters would be best put on a web page or pdf file on another server with a link to it.

 

[mikepvg]

Re: Re: Server is too busy! You have too many characters!

Originally posted by admin





The problem is (mostly) gone now. The current server is upgraded as high as it will go. We're going to be replacing it with a new one at end of the month.



Your gonna need a lot bigger server!







The average type-written page is 2,000 characters. If you can't say it with 5 pages, perhaps it need to be reworded? Just a thought. The reason why the limit... . there has to be some limit. Otherwise someone could post the encyclopedia.



Thats workable, easy enough...







sarches that include 3 letter or smaller words would cause the search index to be larger than the size of the hard drive the forum is on.



Pls advise on the best approach to implement the following research:

Anything regarding the Dana 60 or perhaps the Dana 80? The '60' or the '80' causes the problem.





I'm not sure what you mean.



All recorded links to old TDR threads link to the TDR home page!

i. e.

OLD location of "Best way to hold that Fan pulley?"

https://www.turbodieselregister.com/ubb//Forum1/HTML/00397.html

NEW location

https://www.turbodieselregister.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1468



So, if someone just happen to have catagorized, by topic, a plethora of TDR links, an 'encyclopedia' of knowledge so to speak, they all seem to have become worthless links.



Thank you for your patience and understanding through this transition.



I appreciate your hard work. Sometimes these new software upgrades can be a real PIA & undiscovered issues don't even have reasonable workarounds. I've seen it way too many times when someone in corporate decides to 'upgrade' w/o consulting the real users. Eventually it will all work out, but it doesn't ever come w/o a lot of extra work.



Have a good day...

Mike

 

[admin2]

Re: Re: Re: Server is too busy! You have too many characters!

Originally posted by mikepvg



sarches that include 3 letter or smaller words would cause the search index to be larger than the size of the hard drive the forum is on.



Pls advise on the best approach to implement the following research:

Anything regarding the Dana 60 or perhaps the Dana 80? The '60' or the '80' causes the problem.



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See the search hint I posted last night. It'll allow for 3 letter searches using the hint. For two letters no dice, but a search for Dana alone will pull up the info you need.

All recorded links to old TDR threads link to the TDR home page!

i. e.

OLD location of "Best way to hold that Fan pulley?"

https://www.turbodieselregister.com/ubb//Forum1/HTML/00397.html

NEW location

https://www.turbodieselregister.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1468

The old software maintained its information in a different location on the hard drive. Since the new software moved the data over to a new location, pointers to the old location won't work. Its unavoidable.

I appreciate your hard work. Sometimes these new software upgrades can be a real PIA & undiscovered issues don't even have reasonable workarounds. I've seen it way too many times when someone in corporate decides to 'upgrade' w/o consulting the real users. Eventually it will all work out, but it doesn't ever come w/o a lot of extra work.

Thanks. Many users started asking for upgrades last October. When UBB (the old software) came out with a new version, we decided to wait a while before implementing it. www.ford-diesel.com installed it and we watched them. They had problems for over a month. We started reading on the UBB support boards about the problems with the new UBB software.



VB (the new system) seemed to be the way to go. In all our tests (conducted over several months), it worked great. We SEEMED to have plenty of CPU and RAM to support it. Unfortunately, reality isn't always the same as test environments.



We're planning a major hardware upgrade (the current was upgraded to its max CPU speed as a stop-gap measure). It WILL take care of the speed issue... we're buying a lot of horsepower.



Ken

TDR Admin

 

[mikepvg]

Re: Re: Re: Re: Server is too busy! You have too many characters!

See the search hint I posted last night. It'll allow for 3 letter searches using the hint. For two letters no dice, but a search for Dana alone will pull up the info you need.



Pls point me to that 3 letter hint.

Thanks!

Mike



Here it is:



https://www.turbodieselregister.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=18923



Test edit 2

https://www.turbodieselregister.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=172977#post172977

 

[mikepvg]

Re: Re: Re: Re: Server is too busy! You have too many characters!

Ken



I have noticed another "quirk" of the new software. This could be another thorn in the link documentation process.



Each thread changes its location as each new reply is posted!



That I believe could be a real problem.

i. e.

1) Save (create a link) to each important thread & categorize according to topic/problem etc.



2) Reference that thread to another member needing the tech info discussed in that thread. Lets remember most problems have already been discussed AND SOLVED already. However, Some of the discussions/threads are in fact actually INCORRECT & need to be 'weeded out'. Therefore when a factual thread is located, it is indeed valuable & worth saving/documenting for all to see. That is why I have been so frustrated w/ an abandonment of the old link addresses. My ‘library’ of technologically correct informational links were destroyed.



3) Another member now posts an important "update" to the referenced thread.



4) That member now deletes his post due to an error etc in his figures.



5) The link is now corrupted.



Here's an example:

Old thread titled "94 oil dipstick"

https://www.turbodieselregister.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=642



New link saved on 6/12/01 after Reply by mikepvg & subsequent deletion of last reply

https://www.turbodieselregister.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=172475#post172475



How does one maintain a current 'library' of threads if the locations constantly change, thereby making links unstable?

Part of the advantage of the old software is the threads location does not change. This enables the current version of the thread to be available for all future information seeking members with a saved referenced link no matter what happens to that thread. No wonder the server requires so much more ram etc to work the new software. It’s always changing thread location.



You see, the beauty of the technical info presented here can only be useful if it can easily documented & categorized for instant reference. I believe the workaround might be to disable all deletion modes on subsequent posts. The TDR is trying to achieve accountability by eliminating the deletion mode on the initial post. So why not eliminate the possibility of deleting subsequent posts also? When creating a current link; if that thread is subsequently ‘edited’ the link seems to remain stable upon my initial tests. I have not tested all possible scenarios but my initial findings certainly warrant some more investigation.



Mike

 

[mikepvg]

Re: Re: Re: Re: Server is too busy! You have too many characters!

Ken

TDR Admin



Here's another typical example of the thread link problem



Check out this current thread on diesel fuel:

https://www.turbodieselregister.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=12425



Go down to "Patriots" reply & referenced thread link. "Patriot" did some research as requested by another member & thereby provided a link.

Apparently the referenced thread CHANGED LOCATION for whatever reason making Patriots link WORTHLESS & just pointing to the TDR home page.



This is a problem that the Admin needs to take a hard look at.



Mike

 

[admin2]

Feature set....

Yes, its different from the old system, but it also has a ton of features the old system didn't have. A lot of time, effort, planning and money has gone into the transition to the new system. We can't, at this point, consider going back. We didn't write the new software so we're not able to do much about the way it functions except suggest features to the company that did.



Ken

TDR Admin

 

[mikepvg]

Re: Feature set....

Ken



I am not in any way suggesting we move back to the old system.



I am only suggesting that this 'unstable link characteristic' is a very serious problem thats needs tending to.



I'm sure there is some way to fix the problem.

Software & systems engineers are better equiped than I to solve this type of problem. They may or may not even know of this situation because they have only designed & implemented it & are not hard core users. The 1st step is proper communication between the hard core users & the designers.



I'm just a user who has identified a problem.

If I can help in any way, pls guide me.



Thanks

Mike



BTW your server will not let me post my reply since "it is too busy". Waiting... . Waiting... .

 

[mikepvg]

Pls see above post by mikepvg regarding "search post hint".



My Original ref link is still operational (copied when no other posts were active yet. )



My edit 2 ref link is now corrupted. (copied after 3 replies to thread)

This link did in fact function fine until replies to the ref thread were deleted.







Deletion mode definately needs to be disabled...



Need to test modifying/editing scenarios next.

 

[admin2]

Sigh.....

A. We did not write VBulletin.

B. We don't control how it works.

C. The designers and programmers can be found at: www.vbulletin.com

D. We installed it. We didn't design it.



I'm putting this thread to rest.