Guns, Bows, Shooting Sports, and Hunting Shot Gun Barrel Scope??

[mickeyblueyes]

Hi , I just purchased a Mossberg 535 tactical turkey shot gun. It has a 20 inch barrel and adjustable stock. It is over bored to 10 gage to reduce the recoil, because of this you can not shoot slugs thru it. I am looking to purchase a slug barrel and they sell 2 one for a scope and one with rifle sites, do you need a scope on a shot gun?

 

[31b]

You don't need a scope unless you plan on setting up your Mossberg as a dedicated slug gun.

 

[subodh]

a aimpoint reddot is pretty nice when its dark but you dont need it

 

[HHhuntitall]

A scope would be a preference, not a requirement. If you're a little near sighted, or just want to squeeze the best possible group out of it, a scope is what you would want. Scopes can also be helpful in poorly lit conditions. Most slug guns need to be kept in the 50-150 yard range due to their poorer accuracy and trajectory. If you're accustomed to open sights, that's the way to go. Practice is key to success!! Know your loads, your rifle, and yourself, and you will come home happy every time!.



Happy hunting,

 

[mickeyblueyes]

Thanks for the replies, I was wondering how to look thru a scope with out flinching from the anticipated recoil of a 3 1/2 inch magnum slug. Practice practice practice.

 

[mickeyblueyes]

The mossberg 535 needs two barrels as the stock one is over bored to 10 gage, they say not to shoot slugs out of it, does anyone know different?

 

[HHhuntitall]

Slugs can be shot through it, but they will not be accurate at all. Saboted slugs are a must, and even then they will suffer a loss in velocity, as a great deal of the propellent gasses produced from the powder will escape around the slug and sabot. I'm curious, however, as to who said it's overbored to 10 guage? I'd wager it's probably only opened up to an open bore, which would only be an open 12 guage bore. Otherwise, the barrel on a standard Mossberg would be paper-thin and unsafe to shoot. The best, quickest explaination I can give, would be to redirect you to some articles some fellow shooters have in an ongoing webpage, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gauge_(bore_diameter)



It's a good read, and gives a great deal of insight as to the history of shotgun bore guaging..... as for your open bored 12 guage, try some buckshot or heavy shot. Practice will help overcome flinching, and if it's a real problem, you need to seek another weapon, perhaps in another, smaller, guage.

 

[JMcCoy]

Your stock or rifle sights should be sufficient. I have an EOTECH red dot holograghic sight on my Benelli M4 duty gun. It will allow you to aquire your sight picture quicker. Most don't have any zoom. If your huning with it, an optic can't hurt, but it is a little over kill since you don't need to aquire a target very fast. Turkey and other game usually come in slow. If you do get one, DON'T go cheap. The recoil of a shotgun will knock it out. I would only go with and Aim point, Eotech, or trijicon. Most others are junk. I would not shoot slugs on a boared out barrel. I'll be honest, I wouldn't use that barrel at all. Barrels are set up with different chokes: full, modified, improved, improved modified, etc. I would check the patterns to see if it will hit anything at all. Slugs may even tumble and get stuck. I would get one 12 ga barrel with replacable chokes and shoot 12 ga shot. If recoil is that much of an issue, there are several companies out there that make stocks that absorb recoil. Auto shotguns also recoil less. Let us know what you decide to do. Good luck.

 

[mickeyblueyes]

Slugs can be shot through it, but they will not be accurate at all. Saboted slugs are a must, and even then they will suffer a loss in velocity, as a great deal of the propellent gasses produced from the powder will escape around the slug and sabot. I'm curious, however, as to who said it's overbored to 10 guage? I'd wager it's probably only opened up to an open bore, which would only be an open 12 guage bore. Otherwise, the barrel on a standard Mossberg would be paper-thin and unsafe to shoot. The best, quickest explaination I can give, would be to redirect you to some articles some fellow shooters have in an ongoing webpage, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gauge_(bore_diameter)



It's a good read, and gives a great deal of insight as to the history of shotgun bore guaging..... as for your open bored 12 guage, try some buckshot or heavy shot. Practice will help overcome flinching, and if it's a real problem, you need to seek another weapon, perhaps in another, smaller, guage.

n addition, all 835® Ulti-Mag® smooth bore barrels are overbored to 10 gauge bore dimensions, reducing recoil and producing exceptionally uniform patterns from both light and heavy shot charges. Working in tandem with the performance-enhancing overbored

 

[HHhuntitall]

Hmm, there's certainly not as much difference in the bores as I thought there was. I thought there was around 150 thousandths, but there's only about . 050-. 070. Regardless, being overbored will still cause a loss in velocity, which is were the reduced recoil comes from. Saboted slugs can still be fired, but most likely will not be accurate at any substantial distance.

 

[BIGNASTY]

Bad Turkey

A TACTICAL TURKEY gun :-laf:-laf ive never been turkey hunting but if you need a TACTICAL turkey shot gun well I dont know, if turkeys are armed and dangerous now im afraid to go into the forrest

 

[mickeyblueyes]

Oh those NY turkeys are plenty smart. Any way they call it tactical because it has a adjustable stock which is nice when shouldering a shot gun I like a shot stock. Anyway I called the factory , slugs can not be shot thru the 835 barrel or 935. A dedicated slug barrel needs to be purchased. The only one that is available in RT Hardwoods requires a scope or red dot.

 

[HHhuntitall]

IS that the one with the dedicated picatinny rail made into the barrel?

 

[mickeyblueyes]

It comes with a dedicated scope base, so once its zeroed in you can remove he barrel and put it back with out readjustment to the scope.

 

[HHhuntitall]

That's what I thought. I looked it up online after I posted that question... ... I've used red sight dots on M16s, and they're ok for close shots and combat use. I don't think they're worth a flip on an M16, due to it having a longer range than a shotgun. With a slug gun, I think a red dot might be ok. The batteries have a tendency to go bad at the worst possible time, though... ...

 

[JMcCoy]

The Trijicon Tri-power is nice for that reason. It gets it's power from sunlight through means of fiberoptics, tritium which supplies it's own light source, and a lithium 123A battery backup. The 123A batteries are supposed to be good for 10 years if not used. Down side, they run around $700. 00. Ouch!