Engine/Transmission (1998.5 - 2002) Smarty question

[bsappington]

I just received a smartyOo. and have a couple of questions.



With what is listed in my sig. is it possible to cause damage to my engine by using the higher settings? I will be watching my ex. temps.



Also does some know what value needs to be added for 305 70 R16 tires for correct readings?



Thanks,

Ben

 

[16919]

The higher settings will be harder on your transmission, if its not upgraded it will wear out faster... . the smarty operates with in stock parameters for the engine. try 32. 5 for the tires, you can check nitto's web site for exact dimensions.

 

[Fishin Guide]

The higher settings will be harder on your transmission, if its not upgraded it will wear out faster... . the smarty operates with in stock parameters for the engine. QUOTE]





Actually, it doesn't.



The stock setting operated at the stock parameters. The Smarty and other downloaders and fueling boxes change the stock parameters.



Not trying to split hairs, but many people believe that all the SW versions are like stock. None of them are except for stock. So, as stated, ANY SW version other than stock will add wear. Now, how much? It all depends on your individual setup.



Some trucks will sustain engine damage bone stock. So logically, any added stress through electronics and or fueling changes can affect the lifespan of engines, transmissions, ect.



The Smarty is clearly hardest on the transmission.



Dave

 

[16919]

When I replied I was referring to the engine... . explain to me how a downloader which just alters software,etc can deliver more fuel and performance than that stock part is capable of? If a pump can deliver 600cc of fuel at max output how is changing a program going to make it flow 800? Yes it will deliver that same 600cc of fuel in a different way or sooner but how can it deliver more fuel than that stock part is capable of. That is why the max hp for non wire tapping boxes is around 60-70, that is the most power that you can get from the stock hardware. Once you tap the wire you are overriding the stock parameters. I did say that the higher the setting the harder it will be on the transmission, so I dont understand the contradiction. I know that someone will argue that you can ge more fuel from the pump etc, but you have to go outside of stock capabilities to do so. So if I must clarify yes it is within the stock parameters but it will be harder on your on your transmission and driveline. Its called the clutch and traction challenger for a reason.

 

[bsappington]

Thanks for the replys, I did not mean to start anything. However the transmission has been upgraded. I also have a billet converter so I am not worried about the transmission. I guess I was more concerned about the timing. Could it damage the engine without me knowing?



Thanks,

Ben

 

[Fishin Guide]

I think with the Smarty timing you are pretty safe. It does not rattle anything like the Edge products!



I think the fuel saver is the one you need to be careful with, but I am sure there is more info out there somewhere.



Dave

 

[16919]

I didn't intend to sound like I was fighting back or anything... . just clarifying what I meant to say... ... whether or not I am right or wrong... . I didn't mean to offend anyone, especially you Dave.

 

[Fishin Guide]

No fighting here either.



These forums are for information and idea exchange. There are so few "right" answers most of the facts have to be intrepeted.



maybe some day info from the manufacturers will be more forthcoming like in the performance car industry.



Dave

 

[16919]

No fighting here either.



These forums are for information and idea exchange. There are so few "right" answers most of the facts have to be intrepeted.



maybe some day info from the manufacturers will be more forthcoming like in the performance car industry.



Dave

Yeah, and they will honor their warranties as well... ... ... .....

 

[Boondocker]

I don't know what the Banks Power Pack does. If I had to guess, I would guess that it advances timing since every other plugin module does. So, if the Power Pack is anything like, say the Edge EZ, in that respect, then you may want to avoid the odd-numbered Smarty settings that advance timing. My favorite Smarty setting is #8 as I don't like advanced timing rattle. But my truck is an HO motor where the ECM and VP44 timing is advanced compared to an SO motor.

 

[NoSeeUm]

The odd numbered SW will lower EGT's a bit and more than likely increase fuel economy. The even numbered SW will be more prone to producing smoke at lower rpm's, but the engine will run quieter pretty much over the entire rpm range.



Try running an odd SW for a few days, say SW7. Then go back to stock or run an even SW, say SW6. When you first put in the "no timing" SW you can really hear the difference. There is diesel less rattle with less timing. It is more noticeable when the engine is colder and IAT is under about 50F, but you can hear the difference all the time. I can sepecially hear it at times when the rpm's are over 2000. Above 2500 rpm the sound is pretty much the same either way. At least to my deaf ears.



Marco (Team Smarty) has said that any odd numbered SW is more than safe to tow with. The Fuel Saver SW is not safe to tow heavy with. However, the fuel economy numbers I have read about between an odd numbered SW and Fuel Saver are not much different.



Jim

 

[NoSeeUm]

I don't know what the Banks Power Pack does. If I had to guess, I would guess that it advances timing since every other plugin module does. So, if the Power Pack is anything like, say the Edge EZ, in that respect, then you may want to avoid the odd-numbered Smarty settings that advance timing. My favorite Smarty setting is #8 as I don't like advanced timing rattle. But my truck is an HO motor where the ECM and VP44 timing is advanced compared to an SO motor.

Yeah.....



Does the Power Pack tap the pump wire?



Jim

 

[johncameron]

Yeah.....



Does the Power Pack tap the pump wire?



Jim

yes, the powerpack only adds fuel through the pump wire so it is a great stack with the smarty.





John

 

[bsappington]

Well Ihave been playing with it a little. I can feel a little difference on sw#3. I took it up to sw#8 just to see what it was like... ... . Mam there is a lot of smoke!!!!!!!!!!. Now I am running sw#5 and it seems to be okay. My exhaust temps are a little high but I think it may be time for some turbo upgrades. Anyone have some ideas?



I have to say that was a good investment. The Smarty has made the most noticeable difference by far.



Thanks everyone,



Ben

 

[johncameron]

You should run the odd numbers to take advantage of the timing. I use level 3 for towing and level 9 for playing. Level 1 is great for empty highway cruising.



SW0 is great for winter on ice

 

[jeepit]

I have mine set at SW5 and just leave it there. Seems good for towing and all around usage.

I may just play with it a little this weekend on SW9 and see what happens... .

 

[WestTN]

Mine has been on #7 for over a year now. Towing included.

 

[jeepit]

Mine has been on #7 for over a year now. Towing included.

Does your cruise work ok on #7?

 

[jp8819]

mine is loaded on 7. Dont have cruise so dont have to worry about it but when brother put it on his truck he couldn't use cruise above level 3. Truck throttle just reacted to quickly and cruise could never maintain a steady speed.

 

[darkhorse]

I set mine on #9 & forget it. :-laf I even do that in the deep snow with tire chains & on ice. You just need to be gentle with the throttle