Smarty, the new CaTCHER tool.

[Marco]

Hi there guys & gals,



Beta testing is in progress... it's got awfully quiet in the last days.

I was waiting ( almost hope ) for a problem to pop up, not one yet.

It's boring!

A bug! gimme a bug in the firmware!

From that point of view, no news is good news!



Looks like we've done our alfa in house testing before we released the beta units quite well... :-laf :-laf

 

[dhill]

Marco

If you think it's too quiet for you now, maybe you could start the beta testing for the 3rd gens. Maybe that might give you something to work on, Probably not though, I'm guessing the beta testers for the 3rd gen Smarty are going to have as many issues as the one in testing now.



I know you can't see it but I'm waving my hand over my head, just incase your looking for testers.



Dave

 

[darkhorse]

Hi there guys & gals,



Beta testing is in progress... it's got awfully quiet in the last days.

I was waiting ( almost hope ) for a problem to pop up, not one yet.

It's boring!

A bug! gimme a bug in the firmware!

From that point of view, no news is good news!



Looks like we've done our alfa in house testing before we released the beta units quite well... :-laf :-laf

Not a bug to be found. Smarty makes changing programs pretty simple. Even a fumble fingers like me can do it in less than 3 minutes plug in to plug out. I've run all the odd # programs. I didn't care for #'s 3 & 5 as they seemed a little flat in the mit range. That's probably a good thing for icy patches on the highway though. #9 felt slightly stronger than my original CaTCHER program, #7 just slightly softer. The fuel saver #1 doesn't seem to give up to very much but it's way to soon to say anything about fuel consumption. I've only had Smarty for a day & a half so all my test runs have been pretty short. All I've really noticed so far is a change in throttle pedal feel. Even with the doggy #3 if I just push on the go pedal more the truck still takes off smartly.

 

[Bob Wagner]

Marco and Stefano are very confident in the smarty



Marco offered to buy me a new truck if I could get smarty to not update correctly





guess what? no new truck for me



but it was a hell of an offer

 

[Murle]

Marco and Stefano are very confident in the smarty



Marco offered to buy me a new truck if I could get smarty to not update correctly





guess what? no new truck for me



but it was a hell of an offer

Same here... . My Smarty updated correctly... . No Texas Donkey BBQ here :{

 

[Fishin Guide]

Marco and Stefano are very confident in the smarty



Marco offered to buy me a new truck if I could get smarty to not update correctly









guess what? no new truck for me



but it was a hell of an offer

He knew you wouldn't drive it any further than the corner store or down to Rip's. :-laf



Dave

 

[Giachino]

Ok guys, I have no experience with this product or the earlier version... . I have been wanting a Juice / Attitude combo (and to run it on level 2 or 3)... for now, I dont want to have to dump a ton of money into the truck (I'm sure once I actually get to drive it with a box i'll change my tune!)... . my question is Juice/Attitude or the smarty? Which one is safer on a stock truck? Are they even comparable products? How do they copmpare in throttle response / power (level 3 max on J/A),... . I'm not too concerned with mileage savings , just want some extra power / drivability and fun... . in a reasonable safe for a stock truck manner. Opinions appreciated. I know the thing just came out, so comparisons vs. the previous version may make sense?

 

[Junior]

Of those who are using it and had the catcher. How does it compare in throttle.

Is one of those settings the same as the catcher? Is one of the settings in the smarty stronger than the catcher?

 

[darkhorse]

Of those who are using it and had the catcher. How does it compare in throttle.

Is one of those settings the same as the catcher? Is one of the settings in the smarty stronger than the catcher?

I've only got the seat of my pants to go by, but I'd say program #9 is very much like my old CaTCHER but maybe just a little stronger in the mid range. I've also now run #'s 1, 3, 5 & 7. They all seem to have relatively less sensitivity to the throttle. This, again, is most noticeable in the mid ranges. I definitely like #9 the most. The others would be useful for those with club feet while driving on ice. :-laf Eventually, when I get done playing with the new toy, I'll do some milage tests on the fuel saver program #1.

 

[Bob Wagner]

Of those who are using it and had the catcher. How does it compare in throttle.

Is one of those settings the same as the catcher? Is one of the settings in the smarty stronger than the catcher?

Junior, The Catcher program is much more refined from the earlier version, I was amazed.



The other choice s make this a very nice upgrade plus the other added options.



You will be pleased.



Bob

 

[RAJohnson]

Bob are any of the Beta testers running a Edge Comp as well as the smarty at the same time?



I am looking or waiting to hear compatability concerns or issues.



Rob

 

[Double J]

Bob are any of the Beta testers running a Edge Comp as well as the smarty at the same time?



I am looking or waiting to hear compatability concerns or issues.



Rob

I'm interested in some feedback on this as well. To get the full benefit out of the Smarty it sounds like a TST is the prefered box over the Edge comp. If that's the case, I may have my Comp in the classifieds before long.

 

[Marco]

Any of the Beta testers running a Edge Comp as well as the smarty at the same time?

Yes, Ted has a comp. He gained 36 Hp stacking the CaTCHER with the comp on 5x5.



Marco

P. S. On edit. That wasn't very clear... What I wanted to say is: Comp on 5x5 PLUS the Smarty SW#9 gave 36 ponnies more than the Comp alone. Now it's better

 

[Murle]

Just to let some of you guys know. This is my take on #9. For a stock clutch and trany. I really don't think you want to stack any boxes if you have not updated your drive train. The #9 program in my opinion is all the stress you want to put on your drive train.



Of course there is always the want to want more, but remember if you have a stock clutch you will be putting a new one in soon even on #9 and no box if you hot rod too much.



Just a little food for thought... ... . I can pull 13,000 # at 70 mph with no problems on #9 but that does not mean I can stop it if a bule hair old lady pulls out in front of me.

 

[Marco]

That is a very good point Murle!



CaTCHER = Clutch and Traction Challenger... .



A wire tapping fuelling box will produce more peak horsepower than what the ECM thus the Smarty can do. If we look at the right side of an dyno sheet, the high Rpm part, those boxes will beat Smarty. There's no doubt.



Yet,if we take into consideration the Rpm range we all USE daily on the road the picture is completly different!



On a stock engine, with SW # 9 (the CaTCHER) , at 2000 Rpm the torque is twice than what it was with the stock software. X 2 !



Can a stock clutch or AT take that kinda torque? That LOW in the RPM band?

Repeat after me, I am my own warranty station...



Marco

 

[darkhorse]

On a stock engine, with SW # 9 (the CaTCHER) , at 2000 Rpm the torque is twice than what it was with the stock software. X 2 !



Can a stock clutch or AT take that kinda torque? That LOW in the RPM band?

Repeat after me, I am my own warranty station...



Marco[/QUOTE]



I guess this explains why my truck comes on like a wild animal as I approach 2,000 rpm even at mid throttle. My stock clutch was long gone before I got my CaTCHER over a year ago. My South Bend con ofe is holding up nicely.

 

[Bob Wagner]

I really enjoy all the software versions, I have yet to try out the valet switch software number 0



this should be very interesting :-laf

 

[Murle]

I really enjoy all the software versions, I have yet to try out the valet switch software number 0



this should be very interesting :-laf

I have tried it... . It is like you only have 3 cyls. Hitting on 6 power of 3. You sure could have some fun with a mechanic that thinks he knows it all.



I think it should be called "Loaning your truck to a friend program. "



My thinking has always been... . "Don't loan my truck or my wife..... Because they will both come back Screwed UP. "

 

[Giachino]

That is a very good point Murle!



CaTCHER = Clutch and Traction Challenger... .



A wire tapping fuelling box will produce more peak horsepower than what the ECM thus the Smarty can do. If we look at the right side of an dyno sheet, the high Rpm part, those boxes will beat Smarty. There's no doubt.



Yet,if we take into consideration the Rpm range we all USE daily on the road the picture is completly different!



On a stock engine, with SW # 9 (the CaTCHER) , at 2000 Rpm the torque is twice than what it was with the stock software. X 2 !



Can a stock clutch or AT take that kinda torque? That LOW in the RPM band?

Repeat after me, I am my own warranty station...



Marco

Ok guys, tried to ask this above... but no response as of yet..... for the slow crowd (me)... . I'm under the impression that running a J/A on lvl 3 or less is relatively safe for a stock truck (note I said relatively)... . can the same be said for the catcher? I really like the thought of more torque / better low-mid power and throttle response... . (vs. hi power at 3k rpm) so i'm leaning toward the smarty... . just want an honest opinion on if it's relatively safe. to put another way, i want to do a perf upgrade first, suck wind and save money for the transmission later..... I feel releatively confident I could do that with the J/A combo..... can I be as confident with the smarty?



I realize it's a new product, but in aggregate it sounds similiar in perf (at level 9) to the prevoius version... . so do those with the previous version feel that it's relatively safe?

 

[HookMeUp]

That is a very good point Murle!



CaTCHER = Clutch and Traction Challenger... .



On a stock engine, with SW # 9 (the CaTCHER) , at 2000 Rpm the torque is twice than what it was with the stock software. X 2 !



Can a stock clutch or AT take that kinda torque? That LOW in the RPM band?

Repeat after me, I am my own warranty station...



Marco

So if I read this correctly ... I have a 2002 HO and I add the Smarty I will have somewhere around 1000 lbs/ft of torque? (stock 505 lbs/ft X 2)