Snorkles

[GHarman]

More COLD AIR! Heres something I've been kicking around in my head. HMMM , maybe thats why I got a headache. The examples are very expensive. I would'nt think they would be really that expensive? Heres a link. 'Course, no one makes one fer old iron. Thats the beauty of this whole idea:-laf. GregH



Safari - Snorkels

 

[PToombs]

Wow. That one in the pic is kinda fugly looking.

How about one from a big truck and mount it right on the hood above the turbo? Well, maybe not. But I'm sure you could rig up something that looks nice. Remember, this is a 1st gen, so it's gotta have rugged good looks.

 

[GHarman]

Wow. That one in the pic is kinda fugly looking.

How about one from a big truck and mount it right on the hood above the turbo? Well, maybe not. But I'm sure you could rig up something that looks nice. Remember, this is a 1st gen, so it's gotta have rugged good looks.

PToombs, The're all kinda funky lookin. However, an aluminum air getter could be fabbed that could be very streamlined, from structural tube shapes. (They could even be anodized in colorsOo. ) The mounting (Stainless steel bolts and hardware) and water scavaging are a couple of engineering considerations that I havent figured out in my "grape":-laf, as yet. Rugged, no doubt. Funky? I don't know if I have the capability of making a knock-yer-socks-off prototype. Besides New Ugly's gotta live up to expectations. The top positioned air inlet nozzle has to be able to be rotated to keep from gettin clogged with snow during a storm.

If ya could scavage and eliminate aspirated water? You could modify and pipe directly into a 1st Gen Factory air box. With that huge air filter, better breathing? Just some mental meanderings. GregH

PS. I got enough trouble seein over the hood without one of them big Semi Air Cans settin tall, on the hood:-laf. However, they do have many miles of proven capability under their chrome plated mass.

 

[JHumphries]

I've been thinking about a Lil' Red Express for years. Put a remote turbo kit from Squires Turbo Systems, Squires Turbo Systems - Turbocharged Innovation!, and using one of the factory stacks as the air inlet. Take an air box off of one of those cab-over Isuzu delivery trucks for the air filter.

 

[MMiller]

Put it behind the cab, like an old Cab-over semi truck. Then you could have dual stacks, and an air cleaner kinda in the center. I've thought about this alot, especially after the last time I drowned my cummins in a deep water hole. I've not figured out all the plumbing aspects yet, of getting 4" exhaust from front to back, and 4" air piping from back to front... ... ... .



Michael

 

[JLEONARD]

Just remember that although there may be some advantages, there are also disadvantages of having long plumbing and bends that reduce air flow.

 

[Tippin Spotted Cow]

Just remember that although there may be some advantages, there are also disadvantages of having long plumbing and bends that reduce air flow.

That's what I was thinking. I'd almost think the long tubing and all the bends would kinda negate what you'd gain having the snorkel in the wind like that. Keep in mind, these snorkels aren't built for performance, the point is just to get the intake out of the water and muck... usually at slower speeds and lower rpms on a smaller engine with less air demand than the 5. 9 beast. If you're not planning on sinking 'er to the window sills, you'd probably be better off improving upon the stock design that draws the cold air up from behind the bumper.

 

[JHumphries]

Put it behind the cab, like an old Cab-over semi truck. Then you could have dual stacks, and an air cleaner kinda in the center. I've thought about this alot, especially after the last time I drowned my cummins in a deep water hole. I've not figured out all the plumbing aspects yet, of getting 4" exhaust from front to back, and 4" air piping from back to front... ... ... .



Michael

I was actually taking about using the passenger side exhaust stack as the air intake. That way the truck looks completely stock, but has a turbocharged 360. I would put the air box under the bed to hide it.

I like the sleeper look, not that the Lil' Red looks like much of a sleeper!

Just remember that although there may be some advantages, there are also disadvantages of having long plumbing and bends that reduce air flow



Leonard

STS has a kit to turbo the SRT-10 Truck! If they can flow 7 psi to that 8 Liter engine, then they're probably not losing that much. With large enough pipes, the small amount of restriction can definately be minimized if not virtually eliminated.

 

[Tippin Spotted Cow]

I think JLeonard was referring to putting a snorkel on when he was talking about long plumbing and bends. At any rate though, I assume the STS kits are remote mount turbos that you're talking about, with about 20ft of plumbing. True, this isn't going to wipe out you're performance entirely, but it won't work as well as having a short intake tube. Keep in mind, they remote mount those turbos more out of neccessity than anything else. Gasser exhaust manifolds don't usually lend themselves to turbo mounting like the flanged manifolds for the diesels. Thus, you have remote mount kits for gassers.



Besides this, the long runs of plumbing you get are on the high pressure side of the turbo, and all that pipe ends up acting like a compressor tank, holding high air pressure the whole way through. When the turbo spools up, it just starts shoving that stored up air pressure down the line into the motor. On the low pressure side, you're running those pipes into vaccuum, so you want the shortest run of intake tube possible so the turbo can draw from outside air. Once the turbo starts spooling and sucks the air out of that pipe, you're snorkel becomes a hoover sucking air out of the atmosphere, and as that air rushes in, you run into turbulance issues around every bend and restriction point.

 

[Jgolden]

I guess you are looking for clean cool air, not "fording" of rivers.