Steering shaft about gone!

[CAROLINA CUMMINS]

Yep, she's had it. I'm leaning toward Flaming River, but any suggestions are welcome.



Okay, I just checked on them(FR) and I am confused about the 2 u-joints? What would you do with the rag joint? It doesn't say anything about it.







Thanks, Steve

 

[CDegner]

You cut the shaft above the rag joint.

 

[JLEONARD]

Steve,

The "rag joint" or isolator coupling as we call it in the steering business serves two functions.

1. It allows for some angular misalignment. The second U joint on the Flaming River product will accomplish this.

2. It isolates the noise/vibration from the steering box and prevents it from comming up to the steering wheel (both axially and angularly) The second U joint in the Flaming River shaft will not isolate anything.

This could possibly turn the steering wheel into a "speaker" of sorts.



Someone who has eliminated the rag joint should chime in here and comment as to whether there are negative effects. Sometimes it doesn't make any difference in a old truck like ours that makes a lot of noise anyway... .



Steve, if you cut off the rag joint and eliminate it, I would like to have old one. I'd like to measure it and see if we (Timken/Torrington) have any couplings that we currently use that will fit the application.

Jay Leonard

 

[CAROLINA CUMMINS]

Thanks,



Exactly how do you attach the u-joint to the shaft where the rag joint was?



Does the Borgeson use the rag joint? The only thing I don't like about the Borgeson is the way you have to grind a flat spot on the splined shaft, does Flaming River use this technique too? I need to find something quick so I can put her back in service.



Thanks, Steve

 

[jwilmoth]

The Borgeson is a piece of cake to install and a lot cheaper. Grinding the flat spot takes about a minute. I have one and it is the best thing I ever did. Summit has the Borgeson and Flaming River in their new catalog. Good luck

 

[CAROLINA CUMMINS]

I think I'll go with the Borgeson, cutting off the rag joint does not seem to hot to me. When I install it, do I really need to replace the seal in the steering box? I have alot of other things going bad right now.



(Borgeson is on its way)



Thanks, Steve

 

[Greenleaf]

Borgeson

You'll be happy you chose the Borgeson.



No, you don't have to R&R the stub shaft seal,but since you have the joint off,might as well take an extra hour to do it ,especially if it's beginning to show a leak.



I replaced mine because it was dripping oil. Not hard to do. Used the part no. posted in the "sticky"



I used a die grinder to grind a flat onto the stub shaft. Very easy to do,just make certain that you have the coupling in place which allows wheels straight ahead/steering wheel centered



Scott