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Well, a plausible possibility, anyway. The first part of the story is in this thread.



Coming out late after work on Thursday, March 7th, the truck wouldn't start again. After getting the one other person who was around late, my boss, to drive 30 miles out of his way to take me home, I was able to negotiate the logistic hassles of getting a tow truck on Cape Canaveral AFS the next day (the day before our planned launch--nothing much happening :rolleyes: ), I finally got it towed back to the dealer again. I got it back yesterday--twelve days, including two weekends, later :mad:



Star ran them through hours of diagnostics before approving ordering a new injection pump; the pump made no difference. Star gave them a bunch more diagnostics, but eventually the tech thought of the pressure relief valve on the HPCR (which shunts fuel back to the fuel tank). He said the engine needs at least 5,000 psi to start, and the relief valve was cracking at 1200 psi. He swapped one in from another truck on the lot--mine worked, and the other one (now equipped with my relief valve) displayed starting problems.



OK, that all sounds like a believable scenario of what was preventing starting; so how to deal with future occurrences? The relief valve is prominently accessible on top of the engine. I didn't get a look at it removed, so I don't know if it would be responsive to, shall we say, impact adjustment. I asked about carrying a spare (understanding the need to release pressure before removing it), but the tech said the part (which isn't available right now, anyway) was over $400 :--) His solution, he had been using to move the truck at the dealership was (yes, we all know what the manual says about it, because of the grid heaters)... ether. He said once it started with the ether, it ran fine.



I have no way of knowing whether this was a random failure, or whether running an EZ on Level 6 (which increases HPCR fuel pressure) could have an effect on it.
 
Ether?

mgonske, either your tech is a complete fool or touched in the head, but ether as a starting solution is a bad bad bad idea, grid heater or not, even if it's just once :eek:
 
Summit: No graceful degradation, no clues whatsoever--just one day, no start.



Vaughn: Can you elaborate? (I've already moved a can to the truck from the Jeep, where it's used for seating tire beads)
 
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Ether is very explosive and very hard on the internals of a diesel due to the high compression. Also due to high compression it probably pre-ignites and causes detonation. Detonation on a diesel, again due to its high compression, is very hard on internals and the head gasket.



I have seen ether used to start a diesel and it makes a terrible sound.



Once I saw it used on a large WW2 vintage diesel generator that was so old and low on compression it couldn't make enough heat to get the fire lit on its own. It took 4-5 cans of ether to get it started but it could really pull once it got going (usually a 30-minute ordeal causing complete fumigation within miles).

:eek: :eek:

Vaughn
 
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tip 101:a safe alternative to ether is soaking a rag in gasoline removing air filter and let the fumes flow through the turbo intercooler she will crank right up and this should be safer than ether b/c the flamable rag can be remove quickly. i have used this method many times on diesels!
 
Thanks, Vaughn, that's the kind of technical explanation I was hoping for.



Thanks, Catcracker, too. Hopefully I won't need any of these options, but it's better to have some than get caught flat again.



BTW, for those interested, here is a picture of the relief valve. It's the tall brass piece with the banjo fitting on top.
 
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