Stuipd Kids.. Read on!

[catoiler]

Man I gotta get outa here!This is my son's school and it is not the first time they have had trouble there. We are getting a lot of trash moving into here and bringing their problems with them. Some stupid notion that they want to get their kids "safe" and out of the gangs, but like they say "you can take the kid out of the city but you can't take the city out of the kid" so they bring the trouble with them!Sorry for the rant but had to vent. Read on to see what I mean!











LANCASTER, Calif. - Two teenagers were in custody for allegedly plotting to carry out a Columbine-like massacre at their former high school next

Valentine's Day, authorities said.

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The former Quartz Hill High students, whose names were not released, were arrested Thursday after searches of their homes turned up knives, ammunition, a gas mask and bomb-making instructions downloaded from the Internet, according to the Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department.



They were being held at the Sylmar Juvenile Detention Center for investigation of making terrorist threats, Brown said.



"I've been working with schools for eight years, and we have hoaxes all the time, but this is the first time that I thought, 'Oops, this one could really happen,'" sheriff's Sgt. Darrel Brown said Friday. "You could see they were preparing meticulously, taking things step by step. "



The boys, ages 17 and 15, had been transferred from Quartz Hill to other schools for disciplinary reasons, authorities said.



Brown said an investigation began Wednesday when a student contacted the school's vice principal and said the former classmates were planning a "Columbine-style assault" on the campus. The student said she had learned about it second-hand.



The boys told investigators that they planned to kill Quartz Hill students who had made fun of them, using guns and homemade explosives, then commit suicide, Brown said.



On Friday, deputies at the sheriff's station in Lancaster displayed a page from the 15-year-old's notebook with the scrawled message: "When I'm God, everyone dies. "



The notebook was accompanied by a three-ring binder with pictures of Columbine High School killers Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold, Oklahoma City bomber

Timothy McVeigh and murderer Charles Manson.



Deputies said they found a black trench coat at one boy's home, possibly to be used in imitation of the similarly-dressed Columbine killers, and the 15-year-old boy had carved the word "hate" into his forearm, authorities alleged.

 

[SGibson]

What can you blame it on? poor parenting, a glorification of a ignorant ghetto lifestyle, both parents having to work in almost every home? We sure didn't have this grief when I went to school in the 60's&70's but then again todays kids get "time out" whereas we got knocked out.

 

[fox]

These problems almost always stem from bad parenting. Lack of disipline, and too much free time.



Some parents want good kids so bad they convince themselves first, then turn over trust to the kids to loose it rather than to earn it.

 

[JoshPeters]

I know exactly what your sayin! Where I grew up... it was a small town right around the last ring of "commuting" distance. As people realized that, they moved from the city up to my hometown. With that brought trouble. For the first few years, the "hicks" took care of things, but as time went on, they became not only outnumbered, but they have slowly faded away. I remember my Jr and Sr years of HS, seeing one of the wanna be gang bangers that would always talk ***** being carried down the hallway upside down, headed right for the bathroom. :-laf There wasn't much of any real trouble then.



Trust and respect have all but dissappeared today. I think it's pretty sad.

I think Tracy Lawrence has it right in the song "If the world had a front porch"



Josh

 

[silverram03]

Reading stuff like this simply makes me sick especially having a younger brother that went to Columbine and graduated in 2001 and has since graduated from CU Boulder. Neither of these two schools hold a high regard with me. This excuse now days of both parents have to work is complete BS. From the moment my brother and I were born both of my parents worked, but they always made time for the single most important thing in there life, it is a little thing called FAMILY. Anything else took a back seat to my brother and I. Yeah we may have gotten out of sorts at times but my parents did what it took to set us straight. I don't think discipline and child abuse are even the same thing. As for these two kids you speak about catoiler I agree with you whole heartedly. And all I can say is that it starts with the parents and to some degree the morals/choices instilled in there kids. I see this even more so as with some parents only having kids to show them as a status symbol. For example while at a Christmas party the other night my friends baby girl fell on the kitchen floor and all these yuppie type people could do is stare at her, only to be scolded with a swift remark "Its only a baby and she won't bite. " Seeing as these parents don't even take care of there kids and will gladly pay somebody to deal with them i. e. nannies. I can honestly say that as I grew up my Dad was and will always be my best friend and thats a thing most people can't say.

 

[Sageair]

There were alot less juvenile problems here when the cops used to take the kids out to the city limits and explain the errors of their ways. If the kids went home and complained Dad gave them round two.

 

[TJany]

i agree with everything thats been said, and being 21 i can vouch for everyone (well ok, 95%) of people my age needing everytihng done for them. their parents don't have the time to do anything with them and all they do is go get drunk and find trouble. i can't believe how dependent on other people my age are, let alone how ir-responsible, rude etc. they are. i've seen how some people talk to their parents and say "dang i woulda been knocked out for sayin that to my mom" (my dad literally drop kicked me for talkin back to my mom one time when i took it to far) kids don't know the meaning of discipline anymore, let alone responsibility. its always someone elses fault, even when they did it with their own hands. back on haloween night we had 2 seniors jump in the cape cod canal (i go to mass maritime) and decide to try to swim across it. thank god for them they had float coats on or they'd be dead now. people were talking about how its the schools fault for serving them beer. sorry but thats their own damn fault for being that freckin stupid. sidenote, those 2 seniors are being suspended after this semester and people are saying they did absolutely nothing wrong. meanwhile a coastie chopper and 11 boats were out searching for them... and another thing, i don't hang out with many people my age, i hang out with buddies that are 4 years or more older all the time because i can't stand people my own age, at least there are a few kids older than me with some sense.



sorry, rant over

Tim

 

[Kissfan113]

I agree completely guys, i am only 19 going on 20 but if i treated my folks like most of the kids i grew up around and with i would have been dead by now. Discipline is the key to a good social structure, time outs ain't worth the time it takes and the air that is used to utter the most rediculous thing i believe i ever heard of, if i had ever gotten a time out, i would have been trying to figure just how long i was out for.

 

[mlewis73]

Probably rich trash, with no problems on the face of the earth except the ones they've generated in their minds.



These kids think they have problems... they should look at inner-city youth and disadvantaged youth...



If I were these kids' parents I'd beat the living hell out of them. Then send them to rehab to fix their mental problems.

 

[Txredneck]

I agree with you the way kids are raised today they dont have the same respect that we have for other people. And if you raise your kids today the way we were raised they will have the same respect that we have for each other. But if you look at the state and you raise your kids the way we were raised that is considered beating the kids.

 

[catoiler]

Heck me and my sister were raised by mom because our dads were to caught up in them selfs to care about us,and she never got anything out of them for support. She would always put us first and made shirr were doin what was right and not in trouble. But if we did get out of line,man having to go out and pick a branch off the tree and then gettin it shirr made ya think twice!I can't stand to see some parents go to junior "now take a time out and think about what you just did"!I can count on one hand how many times I have had to spank my 4 kids!They knew when I was mad and would do what they were told. I can proudly say not one has been in trouble(except the oldest one got caught doing a burnout in my 96 ctd). I used to get complements when they were young about how good they were when were out. I can't stand to see the kids running around a store and tossing stuff all over and the parents just ignore it like it is somebody else job to pick up after their brats!

 

[EBottema]

Well CA-



Here is the real problem. After the LA riots a lot of inner city folks were bused into Palmdale. Palmdale used to be a lot better before all the thugs came. They migrated to Lancaster and have ruined that place also. It is terrible how bad the AV as an area has gotten over the past years. It reminds me of a ghetto or the slums. Sure there are bad in all people but the racial makeup in the AV has changed a lot in 10 years and the changes for the worse can be attributed to that.