Off Roading Super Swamper TSL Radials

[Kalaehina]

Anybody running Super Swamper TSL Radials-33x12. 5x16. 5?? I just got these on 2 weeks ago and my truck seems to shimmy and vibrate way more now. I know it's inherent with the tires and I may be feeling the imperfections in the road more, but my trans stick sometimes vibrates so much it looks like it's going to snap. Could it be a tire is out of balance? It seemed to get a little better now, but I think the road bumps are being transmitted through the stick. My BFG MTs weren't this bad even when they were new and had big lugs. Would balancing them with weights on the outside help?, think it's called dynamic?? Just want to hear some thoughts. Thanks guys.

 

[JLinder]

I've run swamper tires on other trucks I've had, and they aren't for the faint of heart. Most of the time, you really don't have lots of problems aside from wandering and noise until you start getting in taller sizes like a 38". I'd say you need to have them balanced again, dynamic is that is what it takes. A friend of mine bought some 38" TSL radials for his suburban and they were out of round right from the get go. Tire shop offered to have them trued, he got them back with about 25% tread left. Needless to say, the tire shop ate that set.

 

[Kalaehina]

Thanks, I think I am going to have the balancing rechecked, hopefully that does it . Thanks again!

 

[DHatfield]

I do not run the Super Swamper TSL Radials, but I do run the TSL Bias ply tire and they ride very rough, shimmies my whole Jeep to death until the tire get warmed up then they ride fine. It kind of feels like driving with square wheels.

 

[mikeg135]

I finally got my Interco TRX's put on today. Of the 5 since I got a spare, two required a good bit of weight to balance.



I still get a little vibration that is noticeable, however a set of Michelins just came off. The tire shop did inform me about something called "equal". It is a powder of some type that they can put in the tire that uses centrifcal force to balance out the tire at highway speeds. They claim that 18 wheelers use this all the time.



I have never of the stuff, and a little weiry of it myself. Maybe some of the other members know about this technique. My concern would be:



"Does this powder eat away at the tire and the rim over time, like sand paper?"



Mike

 

[SOOT]

A friend of mine has 36's on his 99 2500 CTD and it does not shake any more than my truck with stock tires.

 

[sinkinson1]

i am also running tsl radial in 33/12. 5/16. 5 with steel rockcrawler rims. the weight combo with 10ply tires & steel rims is unbelievably heavy. i orignaly had them static balanced & was not impressed at all. i ran into a fellow tdr member & was told about a product similar to equal, but does not need the special filter to keep water out when airing up. this prduct works more with static. i am running 6 oz in all tires. my initial thoughts were that it was much better than regular weights. above 65mph it starts to get a little bumpy. i think that i might need an additional once in each tire because of the weight of the rims & tires & the vibration also comes in spurts. it is not a constant vibration. i was previously using the gsp9700 on my last set of allterains, but doing some offroading i did not want to pay the extra cost affiliated with the gsp9700 since they would need to be balanced more often(loosing weights ect. ) the best benifit of this is when offroading i dont need to worry about loosing weights or getting them rebalaced. i got mine at dudco supply co. in atlanta georgia. they are a distributor for the company that makes it. the product is called counteract.

 

[mikeg135]

How does counteract work?

 

[CUMAPART]

I'm running bias ply 38's on my FJ40 and they run great when they're warmed up. Like others said once you drive a little bit and get the flat spots out of em you're fine.

 

[sinkinson1]

i will post link in the product acc. forum

 

[mschoenheider]

As a cheap alternative to equal or some other product, my friend has used about 8 ounces of # 7 1/2 lead shot inside 38 inch swampers, with no other balancing weights. They are mounted on steel wheels, and ride great. We have had the samuri (yeah you read that right, a suzuki on 38s) up to about 75 with no detectable tire shimmy.

I'm not sure how the shot will react with aluminum wheels, but it seems to work well with steel.

 

[BCaldwell]

I just had a set of toyos put on my old beast and had the sand type balancing done. was told by the tire shop that they put screened valve cores in to stop the sand from clogging up the valve and causing a leaking valve seal. bill

 

[MMiller]

Heres what happened with my bfg mt. 33x12. 6x16. 5's The tire shop mounted and then spin balanced them with stick on wieghts. They just got them close. Then they put in 1/2 a regular shot of equal in the tires. They have been on the truck for 30,000 or so and still no vibration. They would not put just equal in them, said the tires were not large enough. I don't have the screens or filters. Just be sure to add a little air before checking the psi to ensure there isn't any in the core.



Has anyone tried these small of tires with just equal?? My dad runs it in his 18 wheeler and it is the only way to go, it drives better then a new pickup and his truck is pushing 500,000 miles.



I think I might try the swamper truxxus mud terrains next. I can get them in my size but in a load range E. Anybody run these yet??

 

[JFitzgerald]

MMiller, I also have 33 x 12. 5 x 16. 5 BFG KM muds on mine. Eagle 589 aluminum wheels and no balancing. Have 20,000 miles on them and they are riding and wearing great. I rotate them every 4 - 5,000 miles. They drive better than the all terrains that were on it before.



Ran 35" General MT's on my last truck and had problems getting them balanced. Looked into equal, but the local truck shop that sells it said I'd be their ginea pig since they had only used it on semis. They weren't sure how much to put in, so I ended up finding a shop with a good enough balancing machine to do them.



I'm also thinking about the Truxxus next time. Just wondering how many miles they'd go compared to the BFG muds. I like the load E over the BFG's load D.



My Jeep has 38" bias TSL's and they are certainly not what I'd want to use on the road. Off road, they're super.

 

[Oasis-3]

Trxus

Fitz I am on my second set of Trxus tires and the first set I got a little over 30,000 miles out of them. I like the way they work off road. On road and loaded heavy they will get hot as with any good mud tire.



Good Luck

Cliff

 

[JFitzgerald]

Thanks for the info, Cliff. I'm hoping to get more than that from my BFG's, but we'll see. How bald were they when you replaced them?

 

[Oasis-3]

Fitz the tires were just over half warn out but I was going to Canada on a moose hunt 3,000 miles on road and 1,000 miles off road / logging roads and I did not want to take any chances.

I did have to pull out one stuck Jeep and a Ford 150 that were about 40 miles back into the bush. Also I now have a same size spare tire.



Cliff

 

[Brandon]

ssr's = square tires= dont balance lotsa times



would I run w/o them ... ... ... ... ... never



little bit better than my boggers too boot

 

[JFitzgerald]

Originally posted by Oasis-3

Fitz the tires were just over half warn out but I was going to Canada on a moose hunt 3,000 miles on road and 1,000 miles off road / logging roads and I did not want to take any chances.

I did have to pull out one stuck Jeep and a Ford 150 that were about 40 miles back into the bush. Also I now have a same size spare tire.



Cliff

That sounds like a fun trip. My grandpa used to go moose hunting up there too. If they were at just over half, that's pretty good mileage for an agressive tire. I'm liking those tires more and more.