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I was wondering, I want to swiss cheese the stock air filter housing but am wondering about hot air in the engine compartment? I'm thinking about just drilling some holes in the front of the box so it will mostly be getting air from outside?

I dont think it will get too much hot air. Any suggestions??

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Steve
 
I drilled holes in the front of our 93's airbox. I don't know if it helped or not, that truck doesn't have gauges yet. Taking out the tube that goes to the front is supposed to help to, just like taking out the one that goes to the fender on the 2nd gen does. Only it's a little harder to get it off of the 1st gen. You could also just leave the housing loose... put the wing nuts on and then the outer housing so there's a gap and see what that does. If it works then drilling it would be the way to go.

Corey
 
If you left the wing nuts loose, wouldn't the filter-to-hose connection be loose (open to air bypassing the filter)? That's the way it would work on my '93.
 
I got tired of the bad sealing design of my 93 airbox so I just ordered a BHAF, outerwears prefilter and an old smoky mount. Should be installed in a week or so. I'm a bit concerned about the hot air under the hood. We'll see what happens. I'll post some before/after boost and EGT's.



SP
 
When I changed over to an AFE filter on my 91 the stock housing had a rod that ran through the filter with a wing nut to keep filter tight to the filter housing lid so you may get away with cracking the housing open. Bill
 
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I know what you're saying Bill, but the '93 filter is different and relies on the air box cover being tight against the filter and housing to hold it all together. The filter is not really attached to the air hose, just tightened against it in the housing. I hope that makes sense? :)



I'd like to go the same way as formula is going.
 
I got rid of my airbox, and have the air filter (the smaller version of the BHAF) just resting in place at the stock location. I noticed a very small reduction in EGT at cruising speeds (maybe 25 - 50 deg. F), and about 100 - 150 deg. reduction at full throttle.



The first gens are not nearly as sensitive to hot under-hood air as second gens because of the location of the air filter. On second gens, the air filter is closer to the exhaust manifold.



It's easier to understand if you look at the general pattern of airflow under the hood. When the vehicle's moving, air comes in through the grill, and exits below. This is the practical reason behind air dams--they enhance this flow pattern by lowering the air pressure underneath the vehicle, almost "sucking" the air down and out.



The second gen's air filter placement tries to take advantage of a higher pressure area at the base of the windshield. Cowl induction intakes that stick up through the hood on high performance V8 gassers work along the same lines. Well, those that are open towards the rear anyhow--not the "ram-air" style.



Theoretically with the placement of our air filters close to the front, the only heat we have to worry about is that from the radiator and other coolers up there. In my opinion there's not much to worry about since the air isn't being drawn towards the air filter--it's being drawn back and down.



What we really need to deal with this issue is someone to place about 10 small temperature probes all around the inside of the engine compartment, and take a bunch of data under all different type of driving conditions. Obviously that probably won't ever happen. :D



Mike
 
JFitzgerald, how about a peice of plumbers tape around the whole filter and lid to keep filter tight to the lid and seal out dust jus as a way to test out wither or not you want to add more air holesto your filter housing. bill
 
Hot Air not an issue?

So I really don't have to worry about hot engine compartment air?? i Will only be cutting holes in the front of the housing anyway. It will still draw alot of air from the stock intake ?plenum?

is that the right term? (plenum). Thanks for help.









Steve
 
I cut two 2 inch dia holes in the airbox on my 91 (non-intercooled).

I did not notice any significant change in power , boost, or EGT from that change alone.

The filter element does get dirty where the holes are, so I know it's drawing air thru there.
 
Can I suggest buying a "OLD SMOKEY" mount. Looks great, fits great and opens up the filter to lots of air. OLD SMOKEY ( Mike ) is a member of the TDR and makes/sells them for $60.



mark
 
I finally did it!!!

Well I just swiss cheesed my airbox. I tried not to overdo it but maypbe I underdid it. I drilled 7- 7/8 inch holes and 5- 5/8 inch holes in the front - facing the headlight. Is that enough ???

It seemed to help a little bit.











Steve
 
All of this talk of swiss cheese got me excited. So, out came the 4-1/2" hole saw:--) . Blasted one hole in the front near the turn signal and one in the back. Turbo sounds nice:cool:. Didn't do much for EGT, boost or spool-up. But the K&N was covered with crap on the bottom half which probably didn't help. Since the K&N and the airbox will disappear shortly I couldn't resist hacking into the airbox. :D
 
Sorry for the confusion Fitz... I left the nuts loose in our 91 without an intercooler and out old 89, they had the rod that held the filter tight without being screwed on. I actually haven't been able to do the 93 yet, we haven't had it long enough, I guess I'll have to just drill the holes.

Corey
 
I went ahead and drilled about 5 2" holes around my air box. I couldn't tell if that made any improvent, seeing as I just installed my PODs and got my timing set at 1. 5mm. And yes my top dead center plug was off a good 5 degrees. Boy she runs sweet now:D
 
Originally posted by CumminsAholic

Sorry for the confusion Fitz... I left the nuts loose in our 91 without an intercooler and out old 89, they had the rod that held the filter tight without being screwed on. I actually haven't been able to do the 93 yet, we haven't had it long enough, I guess I'll have to just drill the holes.

Corey



No problem, makes sense now. ;)
 
Another good way to get more air to an exposed/partially exposed filter, is to cut out an approximately 4"X8" hole behind the headlight/turn signal. Be careful not to cut the radiator overflow, or the jack. I removed both of them for the surgery. I didn't put the jack back in, however, because it would obviously block some air, and it isn’t even tall enough to lift the rig anyway. The hole can’t be seen when the grill is put back on, unless you really know what to look for.



Mike
 
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