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Technical Service Bulletin in Oct. 2016 TSB # 08-082-16 ITBM
- Thread starter SnoKing
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Integrated trailer brake control nodule
SYMPTOM/CONDITION:The customer may describe an intermittent condition where the trailer brakes feel as if theyare not working for the first few brake applies. This condition only happens if the trailer hasbeen connected before the vehicle was started.
SYMPTOM/CONDITION:The customer may describe an intermittent condition where the trailer brakes feel as if theyare not working for the first few brake applies. This condition only happens if the trailer hasbeen connected before the vehicle was started.
I gave up and went OLD SCHOOL before someone was killed!
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#ad#adNo it means get the flash done so the problem does not occur.
SnoKing
TDR MEMBER
Well took "Cherry" our 2015 3500 in for flashes today at Superstition Springs dealer is Mesa, AZ.
They did:
TSB 08-82-16 ITBM
TSB 08-044-16 RFH RF Hub
TSB 21-004-16 TCM
TSB 05-013-15 ABS
TSB 08-017-17 BCM
TSB 18-037-16 PCM
They did not have a loaner available so they rented an Enterprise RAM 1500 Hemi for me. It had something I wish my RAM had. Above the cruse control buttons was the -/+ shift buttons for the 8 speed transmission. I sure wish my buttons were located on the steering wheel like this 1500 instead of on the shift lever!!
A couple things changed their defaults. Doors were locking when the truck started moving and I had to change that back. The horn is sounding when I lock the truck and I will have to silence that, not a nice thing in the RV park.
I let off and got back on it quickly to make sure that dead pedal was not added with these flashes. Seems OK, or no different than before the flashes.
So it was not to bad for my first trip to the dealer with this new RAM. With the 2001.5 is took a couple trips to turn on the cold weather high ideal.
SNOKING
They did:
TSB 08-82-16 ITBM
TSB 08-044-16 RFH RF Hub
TSB 21-004-16 TCM
TSB 05-013-15 ABS
TSB 08-017-17 BCM
TSB 18-037-16 PCM
They did not have a loaner available so they rented an Enterprise RAM 1500 Hemi for me. It had something I wish my RAM had. Above the cruse control buttons was the -/+ shift buttons for the 8 speed transmission. I sure wish my buttons were located on the steering wheel like this 1500 instead of on the shift lever!!
A couple things changed their defaults. Doors were locking when the truck started moving and I had to change that back. The horn is sounding when I lock the truck and I will have to silence that, not a nice thing in the RV park.
I let off and got back on it quickly to make sure that dead pedal was not added with these flashes. Seems OK, or no different than before the flashes.
So it was not to bad for my first trip to the dealer with this new RAM. With the 2001.5 is took a couple trips to turn on the cold weather high ideal.
SNOKING
I have both a 2015 EcoDiesel 1500 and a 2017 Diesel 3500 and I HATE the 1500's shift on the wheel! To each his own..
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SnoKing
TDR MEMBER
I did not like the PND knob. I did like the buttons on steering wheel to control highest hear and cause it to show what gear it is in vs mine in the side of the shift lever that sometimes take more than one push.
Snoking
SnoKing
TDR MEMBER
If you trusted the engineers enough to buy the truck, why would you not trust them to fix issues that they have found over time with vehicles in actual use?
I in particular wanted the ITBM update. Also under certain conditions I had the Aisin hunt between 1 and 2nd gear when rolling through a stop sign. Also had a bit of a lope going real slow through RV Resort up North. Will not know if that has changed unit we get back there in 6 weeks or so.
SNOKING
I gave up and went OLD SCHOOL before someone was killed!
I let my MaxBrake go with my 04. I've regretted it ever since my first tow with my 15.
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SnoKing
TDR MEMBER
Don't feel like the loan ranger! I let mine go also. Custom paint job and all.
Until one towed with a Brake Smart or Max Brake they just did not understand. When I bought my Max Brake I really kicked myself for not getting the Brake Smart years earlier. I hated my Prodigy! SNOKING
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The horn honking, lights flashing, chimes, bell ringing racket when someone locks/unlocks their car is a real pet peeve of mine. Some folks seem like they need to perform this function several times just to make sure.
SnoKing
TDR MEMBER
I can not wait to tow the trailer home to Washington next month, as the transmission shifting feels better and smoother. Reading what I can find on the TSB gear hunting may improve.
21-004-16 REV. A -2-
NOTE: This bulletin applies to DD, DF and DP vehicles built on or before November 21, 2016 (MDH 1121XX) equipped with a 6-Speed Aisin Automatic Transmission (Sales Code DF2) or an AS66RC Aisin Automatic Transmission (Sales Code DF3).
SYMPTOM/CONDITION:
A small number of customers may experience one or more of the following conditions:
Vehicles equipped with an AS69RC automatic transmission (Sales Code DF2)
• **1-2 Upshift shudder correction (Diesel engines only).
• Cruise Control shift quality improvements while on coast down.
• 3-4 Flare Issue fix (Diesel engines only).
• Trans quick learn fix (Gas engines only).**
• A harsh 1-2 upshift.
• Excessive gear shifting.
• Less than desired towing performance while using cruise control.
• Harsh engagement while shifting from neutral to drive, neutral to reverse, or park to
reverse with vehicle still in motion (rolling garage shift).
• Transmission Oil Temperature light illumination during high engine and tow loads.
• Engine flare during 2-1 tip in downshift.
• Less than desired shift quality during 6-5, 5-4 coasting downshifts.
• Delayed downshifts in Tow/Haul mode while driving down grades.
• Less than desired transmission shift performance when transitioning from low
traction surface to high traction surfaces. (i.e. ice covered road to clear pavement).
• Harsh 2-1 downshift.
• Less than desired shift points during light pedal and Wide Open Throttle (WOT)
operation or while in Tow/Haul and engine brake modes.
• Delayed engagement when shifting from neutral to drive, neutral to reverse, or park
to reverse (garage shifts).
• Audible squawk noise on 4-3 downshift.
• Poor vehicle acceleration in first gear with vehicle fully loaded.
• Malfunction Indicator Lamp (MIL) illumination with no defect found for Diagnostic
Trouble Code (DTC) P253D - PTO Sense Circuit High.
AS66RC automatic transmission (Sales Code DF3)
• **Cruise Control shift quality improvements while on coast down.
• 3-4 Flare Issue fix (Diesel engines only).
• Trans quick learn fix (Gas engines only).**
• Transmission Oil Temperature light illumination during high engine and tow loads.
• Less than desired towing performance while using cruise control.
• Harsh engagement while shifting from neutral to drive, neutral to reverse, or park to reverse with vehicle still in motion (rolling garage shift).
• Engine flare during 2-1 tip in downshift.
• Less than desired shift quality during 6-5, 5-4 coasting downshifts.
• Delayed downshifts in Tow/Haul mode while driving down grades.
• Less than desired transmission shift performance when transitioning from a low
traction to high traction surfaces. (i.e. ice covered road to clear pavement).
• Less than desired shift points during light pedal and Wide Open Throttle (WOT)
operation or while in Tow/Haul and engine brake modes.
-3- 21-004-16 REV. A
DIAGNOSIS:
Using a Scan Tool (wiTECH) with the appropriate Diagnostic Procedures available in TechCONNECT, verify all related systems are functioning as designed. If DTCs or symptom conditions, other than the ones listed above are present, record the issues on the repair order and repair as necessary before proceeding further with this bulletin.
If the customer describes the symptom/condition listed above, perform the Repair Procedure.
REPAIR PROCEDURE:
NOTE: Install a battery charger to ensure battery voltage does not drop below 13.2 volts. Do not allow the charging voltage to climb above 13.5 volts during the flash process.
NOTE: If this flash process is interrupted/aborted, the flash should be restarted.
1. Reprogram the TCM with the latest available calibration. Detailed instructions for flashing control modules using the wiTECH Diagnostic Application are available by selecting the “HELP” tab on the upper portion of the wiTECH window, then “HELP CONTENTS.” This will open the Welcome to wiTECH Help screen where help topics can be selected.
2. Once programming is complete, perform the “Quick Learn” procedure using the wiTECH diagnostic scan tool.
3. Clear all DTCs that may have been set in any module due to reprogramming. The wiTECH application will automatically present all DTCs after the flash and allow them to be cleared.
POLICY:
Reimbursable within the provisions of the warranty.
TIME ALLOWANCE:
NOTE: The expected completion time for the flash download portion of this procedure is approximately 3 minutes. Actual flash download times may be affected by vehicle connection and network capabilities.
Labor Operation No:
Description
Skill Category
Amount
**18-19-05-EF
Module, Transmission Control (TCM) - Reprogram
(0 - Introduction)
2- Automatic Transmission
0.3 Hrs**
21-004-16 REV. A -4-
FAILURE CODE:
The dealer must choose which failure code to use. If the customer came in with an issue and if the dealer finds a software update to correct that issue, use failure code CC, for all other use failure code RF.
• If the customer’s concern matches the SYMPTOM/CONDITION identified in the Service Bulletin, failure code CC is to be used.
• If an available flash is completed while addressing a different customer concern, failure code RF is to be used.
CC
Customer Concern
RF
Routine Flash
21-004-16 REV. A -2-
NOTE: This bulletin applies to DD, DF and DP vehicles built on or before November 21, 2016 (MDH 1121XX) equipped with a 6-Speed Aisin Automatic Transmission (Sales Code DF2) or an AS66RC Aisin Automatic Transmission (Sales Code DF3).
SYMPTOM/CONDITION:
A small number of customers may experience one or more of the following conditions:
Vehicles equipped with an AS69RC automatic transmission (Sales Code DF2)
• **1-2 Upshift shudder correction (Diesel engines only).
• Cruise Control shift quality improvements while on coast down.
• 3-4 Flare Issue fix (Diesel engines only).
• Trans quick learn fix (Gas engines only).**
• A harsh 1-2 upshift.
• Excessive gear shifting.
• Less than desired towing performance while using cruise control.
• Harsh engagement while shifting from neutral to drive, neutral to reverse, or park to
reverse with vehicle still in motion (rolling garage shift).
• Transmission Oil Temperature light illumination during high engine and tow loads.
• Engine flare during 2-1 tip in downshift.
• Less than desired shift quality during 6-5, 5-4 coasting downshifts.
• Delayed downshifts in Tow/Haul mode while driving down grades.
• Less than desired transmission shift performance when transitioning from low
traction surface to high traction surfaces. (i.e. ice covered road to clear pavement).
• Harsh 2-1 downshift.
• Less than desired shift points during light pedal and Wide Open Throttle (WOT)
operation or while in Tow/Haul and engine brake modes.
• Delayed engagement when shifting from neutral to drive, neutral to reverse, or park
to reverse (garage shifts).
• Audible squawk noise on 4-3 downshift.
• Poor vehicle acceleration in first gear with vehicle fully loaded.
• Malfunction Indicator Lamp (MIL) illumination with no defect found for Diagnostic
Trouble Code (DTC) P253D - PTO Sense Circuit High.
AS66RC automatic transmission (Sales Code DF3)
• **Cruise Control shift quality improvements while on coast down.
• 3-4 Flare Issue fix (Diesel engines only).
• Trans quick learn fix (Gas engines only).**
• Transmission Oil Temperature light illumination during high engine and tow loads.
• Less than desired towing performance while using cruise control.
• Harsh engagement while shifting from neutral to drive, neutral to reverse, or park to reverse with vehicle still in motion (rolling garage shift).
• Engine flare during 2-1 tip in downshift.
• Less than desired shift quality during 6-5, 5-4 coasting downshifts.
• Delayed downshifts in Tow/Haul mode while driving down grades.
• Less than desired transmission shift performance when transitioning from a low
traction to high traction surfaces. (i.e. ice covered road to clear pavement).
• Less than desired shift points during light pedal and Wide Open Throttle (WOT)
operation or while in Tow/Haul and engine brake modes.
-3- 21-004-16 REV. A
DIAGNOSIS:
Using a Scan Tool (wiTECH) with the appropriate Diagnostic Procedures available in TechCONNECT, verify all related systems are functioning as designed. If DTCs or symptom conditions, other than the ones listed above are present, record the issues on the repair order and repair as necessary before proceeding further with this bulletin.
If the customer describes the symptom/condition listed above, perform the Repair Procedure.
REPAIR PROCEDURE:
NOTE: Install a battery charger to ensure battery voltage does not drop below 13.2 volts. Do not allow the charging voltage to climb above 13.5 volts during the flash process.
NOTE: If this flash process is interrupted/aborted, the flash should be restarted.
1. Reprogram the TCM with the latest available calibration. Detailed instructions for flashing control modules using the wiTECH Diagnostic Application are available by selecting the “HELP” tab on the upper portion of the wiTECH window, then “HELP CONTENTS.” This will open the Welcome to wiTECH Help screen where help topics can be selected.
2. Once programming is complete, perform the “Quick Learn” procedure using the wiTECH diagnostic scan tool.
3. Clear all DTCs that may have been set in any module due to reprogramming. The wiTECH application will automatically present all DTCs after the flash and allow them to be cleared.
POLICY:
Reimbursable within the provisions of the warranty.
TIME ALLOWANCE:
NOTE: The expected completion time for the flash download portion of this procedure is approximately 3 minutes. Actual flash download times may be affected by vehicle connection and network capabilities.
Labor Operation No:
Description
Skill Category
Amount
**18-19-05-EF
Module, Transmission Control (TCM) - Reprogram
(0 - Introduction)
2- Automatic Transmission
0.3 Hrs**
21-004-16 REV. A -4-
FAILURE CODE:
The dealer must choose which failure code to use. If the customer came in with an issue and if the dealer finds a software update to correct that issue, use failure code CC, for all other use failure code RF.
• If the customer’s concern matches the SYMPTOM/CONDITION identified in the Service Bulletin, failure code CC is to be used.
• If an available flash is completed while addressing a different customer concern, failure code RF is to be used.
CC
Customer Concern
RF
Routine Flash
SnoKing
TDR MEMBER
Pcm reflash tsb 18-037-16
All,
New PCM Flash available. Improves the following info. On my 68RFE my violent torque convertor unloading is greatly improved (decreased) and unloaded shift quality and timing is better.
SUBJECT:
Flash: 6.7L Diagnostic And System Improvements
OVERVIEW:
This bulletin involves reprogramming the Engine Control Module/Powertrain Control
Module (ECM/PCM) with the latest available software.
MODELS:
2015 (DJ) Ram 2500 Pickup
2015 (D2) Ram 3500 Pickup
NOTE: This bulletin applies to vehicles equipped with a 6.7L Cummins Diesel engine
(Sales Code ETK).
SYMPTOM/CONDITION:
A small number of customers may experience a Malfunction Indicator Lamp (MIL)
illumination. Upon further investigation a technician may find one or more of the following
Diagnostic Trouble Codes (DTCs) set in the PCM memory:
· P218F - Reductant No Flow Detected.
· P242F - Diesel Particulate Filter Restriction - Ash Accumulation.
· P205E - (Diesel Exhaust Fluid) Reductant Tank Temperature Sensor Circuit
Intermittent (setting when the block heater is plugged in).
· U110E - Lost Ambient Temperature Message.
· P20E8 - (Diesel Exhaust Fluid) Reductant Pressure Too Low.
· P2281 - Air Leak Between MAF And Throttle Body.
NUMBER: 18-037-16 REV. A
GROUP: Vehicle Performance
DATE: April 23, 2016
· P1477 - Intake Air Diverter Valve Position Sensor Circuit Shorted To Ground.
· U1421 - Implausible Ignition Key Off Time Received.
· P026B - Injection Timing Performance.
In addition to addressing the above DTCs, the following powertrain system
improvements/enhancements are also included in this software release:
· **NOx sensor calibration improvements. (Sales Code DG7).
· Enhanced software for a No crank/No start issue. (U0100 - Lost Communication
With ECM/PCM). (Sales Code DG7).**
· Ambient Air Temperature (AAT) improvements.
· 68RFE Transmission overall shift quality improvements.
· SCR Efficiency scan tool test improvement.
· Charging system improvements for single alternator applications (Changes the
cutout threshold from 600 to 500 RPM).
· Diesel Exhaust Fluid (DEF) system calibration improvement during Stationary
Regeneration.
· Cold idle speed stability improvement.
· Charging system improvements for dual alternator applications.
· Torque increase to 865 ft/lbs (D2 vehicles equipped with the Aisin transmission
sales code DF2 only).
· Fuel Filter Minder calibration changes.
· wiTECH Fuel Pressure Override and Fuel System Run Up test improvements.
All,
New PCM Flash available. Improves the following info. On my 68RFE my violent torque convertor unloading is greatly improved (decreased) and unloaded shift quality and timing is better.
SUBJECT:
Flash: 6.7L Diagnostic And System Improvements
OVERVIEW:
This bulletin involves reprogramming the Engine Control Module/Powertrain Control
Module (ECM/PCM) with the latest available software.
MODELS:
2015 (DJ) Ram 2500 Pickup
2015 (D2) Ram 3500 Pickup
NOTE: This bulletin applies to vehicles equipped with a 6.7L Cummins Diesel engine
(Sales Code ETK).
SYMPTOM/CONDITION:
A small number of customers may experience a Malfunction Indicator Lamp (MIL)
illumination. Upon further investigation a technician may find one or more of the following
Diagnostic Trouble Codes (DTCs) set in the PCM memory:
· P218F - Reductant No Flow Detected.
· P242F - Diesel Particulate Filter Restriction - Ash Accumulation.
· P205E - (Diesel Exhaust Fluid) Reductant Tank Temperature Sensor Circuit
Intermittent (setting when the block heater is plugged in).
· U110E - Lost Ambient Temperature Message.
· P20E8 - (Diesel Exhaust Fluid) Reductant Pressure Too Low.
· P2281 - Air Leak Between MAF And Throttle Body.
NUMBER: 18-037-16 REV. A
GROUP: Vehicle Performance
DATE: April 23, 2016
· P1477 - Intake Air Diverter Valve Position Sensor Circuit Shorted To Ground.
· U1421 - Implausible Ignition Key Off Time Received.
· P026B - Injection Timing Performance.
In addition to addressing the above DTCs, the following powertrain system
improvements/enhancements are also included in this software release:
· **NOx sensor calibration improvements. (Sales Code DG7).
· Enhanced software for a No crank/No start issue. (U0100 - Lost Communication
With ECM/PCM). (Sales Code DG7).**
· Ambient Air Temperature (AAT) improvements.
· 68RFE Transmission overall shift quality improvements.
· SCR Efficiency scan tool test improvement.
· Charging system improvements for single alternator applications (Changes the
cutout threshold from 600 to 500 RPM).
· Diesel Exhaust Fluid (DEF) system calibration improvement during Stationary
Regeneration.
· Cold idle speed stability improvement.
· Charging system improvements for dual alternator applications.
· Torque increase to 865 ft/lbs (D2 vehicles equipped with the Aisin transmission
sales code DF2 only).
· Fuel Filter Minder calibration changes.
· wiTECH Fuel Pressure Override and Fuel System Run Up test improvements.
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