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Hey all,



From the other other head about my injection pump, I looked at my disassembled pump this morning to find out why the shop wanted $1700 to rebuild it. No pictures yet. Keep in mind this is a Cummins reman pump I installed with Daniel Puckett in Oct. 2005. A local shop in Nashville turned up the fuel to make it 10% hot around March 2006.



* (2) rollers were worn (opposite). They explained that at Cummins, or some other time, the rollers had been replaced because they were 2 piece not 3 piece like original rollers. They showed me the difference.

* Cam plate worn from roller wear

* Advance piston stuck in housing



I believe everything else was in good condition, i. e. springs. The housing was in good condition, no major scoring, etc other than the fact that the advance piston was stuck. They believed the piston was stuck from metal from the rollers and the housing and piston would be damaged beyond reuse based on another pump they showed me. However, they did not spend any effort to separate the 2 parts.



I asked them about the delivery valves because #2 was hanging open. They said they took them apart and they slide and work fine but that one of them was hanging from metal but showed fine once disassembled.



Here's the kicker. They asked me if I had turned up the fuel because that was the most likely cause of roller wear. I said the only 2 people to adjust the pump were Cummins and you. They removed the Cummins tamper proof seals and installed their own.



What do you all think???



They planned to order a housing and piston and cam plate among other things. I talked to a shop that has housings from Bosch VE44 pumps used in the logging industry and the local shop cautioned that the piston might be different or may not fit the housing. I am going to talk to the other shop again and possibly one or two shops.



For right now I left the pump at the local shop pending a final decision on a rebuilder.



Brian
 
from what you mentioned I would rebuild it yourself,... . if you can get the parts from them. The cam plate and rollers are pretty easy to swap out . . If you can change or swap a plunger then the cam plate is right there. . I would try it your self. .

Just a Idea,

thanks

Deo
 
I've paid less than $1700 for a whole cummins truck! Look for a good used one. I don't think there's any reason to spend $1700 on a VE rebuild...
 
I looked at my disassembled pump this morning to find out why the shop wanted $1700 to rebuild it





Ummm, check with PDR on a VE pump. At one time they were selling NEW pumps for around $1200.



The $1700 sounds like a VP rebuild price, not a VE.
 
PDR lists them but doesn't have any... and hasn't for a long time. They should remove the listing from their Website.



Brian
 
Piers does in fact have new stock VE pumps, I just got an email from Josh there and he said they do have them.
 
rylons,



Last week when I called they said haven't had 'em for years. I just called after reading your email and Mark answered the phone and verified with Josh, that No, they don't have any - must have been a misunderstanding.



Regards,

Brian
 
btoscano said:
rylons,



Last week when I called they said haven't had 'em for years. I just called after reading your email and Mark answered the phone and verified with Josh, that No, they don't have any - must have been a misunderstanding.



Regards,

Brian



I guess Josh must be smokin too much diesel, :-laf this is what he wrote.



If you are looking for a stock VE pump, yes we do still have them available. Would it be in CDN or US funds?



Thanks



Josh
 
Bill,



I was hoping to get the pump rebuilt without having to ship it but it became pretty clear it wasn't going to be easy or cheap. Sheid's may be local to you but its not for me. This morning I bit the bullet and sent the pump off to a far away land for rebuilding.



Thanks,

Brian
 
I don't want to bore you with the long story of my '92 pump desaster, but Cummins Cal Pacific wanted $1,600+ to exchange my VE pump. I called a few local shops in SoCal and asked for online advise and heard that "only a few people in the country" can rebuild such a pump properly. Did some online research and found the same pump for prices between $750 and $1,150 online, all from "expert shops" that are in the business forever. Long story short, my new pump (it took Cummins 7 hours at $91. 00 each to install it) lasted 87 miles until the truck stopped. Diagnosis after towing (another 3. 5 hours): fuel shutoff soilenoid bad. Once it came out, we found metal inside. Now I'm facing another $475 installation. With towing and extra labor I at least have to spend $1,100 MORE than anticipated. I could have bought the heavily overpriced pump from the dealer, with nice warranty and all, and would be ahead of the game.

"Cheap pump?" Home rebuild? I dont' think so . . . .
 
BPaulsen, sounds like you wouldnt have been any worse off doing it yourself. With your and Brian's experience with Cummins ReCon, I can see why they are referred to as ReJunk, and I wont be buying anything from them.



DP
 
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