The law IS the Law

[fkovalski]

(I got this from my brother... )





Subject: The Law is the Law



Great concept!



THE LAW IS THE LAW



So if the US government determines that it is

against the law for the words "under God" to be on our money,



then, so be it.



And if that same government decides that the "Ten Commandments" are not

to be used in or on a government installation, then, so be it.



And since they already have prohibited any prayer in the schools,

on which they deem their authority, then so be it.



I say, "so be it," because I would like to be a

law abiding US citizen.



I say, "so be it," because I would like to think

that smarter people

than I are in positions to make good decisions.



I would like to think that those people have the

American Publics' best interests at heart.



BUT, YOU KNOW WHAT ELSE I'D LIKE?



Since we can't pray to God, can't Trust in God and

cannot Post His Commandments in Government buildings, I don't believe the Government and it's employees should participate in the Easter and Christmas

celebrations which honor the God that our government is eliminating from many facets of American life.



I'd like my mail delivered on Christmas, Good Friday, Thanksgiving & Easter.



After all, it's just another day.







I'd like the US Supreme Court to be in session on Christmas, Good Friday, Thanksgiving & Easter as well as Sundays.

After all, it's just another day.







I'd like the Senate and the House of Representatives



to not have to worry about getting home for the "Christmas Break. "

After all ~



it's just another day.



I'm thinking that a lot of my taxpayer dollars could be saved, if all

government offices & services would work on Christmas,

Good Friday & Easter.



It shouldn't cost any overtime since those would

be just like any other day of the week to a government that is trying to be

"politically correct".



In fact... . I think that our government should work on Sundays

(initially set aside for worshipping God... )



because, after all,



our government says that it should be just another day... .



What do you all think????



If this idea gets to enough people,



maybe our elected officials will stop giving in to the minority

opinions and begin,

once again,



to represent the 'majority' of ALL of the American people.



SO BE IT... ... .....

 

[Boomer II]

Good luck, just say NO to common sense!!

 

[amillstream]

It is beyond my comprehension why so many people in this country are turning their backs on the Lord. I also believe that America will deteriate or prosper depending on whether we reject the Lord or embrace him. This country sure needs more prayer not less!!

 

[GFrance]

It is beyond my comprehension why so many people in this country are turning their backs on the Lord. I also believe that America will deteriate or prosper depending on whether we reject the Lord or embrace him. This country sure needs more prayer not less!!

I'll add a big AMEN to that brother!

 

[Tony T.]

It is beyond my comprehension why so many people in this country are turning their backs on the Lord. I also believe that America will deteriate or prosper depending on whether we reject the Lord or embrace him. This country sure needs more prayer not less!!

More families like the Walton's instead of the Simpson's.





Tony

 

[skobylenski]

Aww, but I like The Simpson's



Seriously, though, my girlfriend's father is a city letter carrier, and he works a MINIMUM of 60 hours a week, and usually 70-80 hours, especially during the holidays. You're telling me he should be working on Sunday, too, just so you can get your freaking mail a day earlier? Give me (and him, for that matter) a break. Our postal services are already spread paper thin, having to do 2 adn 3 times the amount of work specified in their contracts because the postal service refuses to hire more carriers. Here's a prime example: I was planning on getting a job over the summer in the same carrier's annex as my girlfriend's father. Too bad 3 days after I got my application in, the head of the USPS (the big-wig in Washington), ordered that all part-time workers be laid off by the end of the following day. Needless to say, the work load about tripled for the the full-timers, and I didn't get a job. I'm not crying about not getting a job (that's another issue for later), I'm crying about the fact that people think that government workers should have to work more, when in fact, they could have the designated days off that their contracts specify if the government would simply wake the kcuf up and hire some more employees.



Get a life...

 

[SOLER]

skobylenski



relax, dude. Read the whole post. It's kind of like the tree huggers that show up to a rally and say we can't drill for oil in Alaska, but they show up to the rally in a beater that's blowing blue and black smoke like a chimney at a steel plant!



the gub'mnt wants to take God away, but still get the holidays off? What's up with that? Cake and eat it too? Eat the fruit on both sides of the road? What world are we living in?



SOLER

 

[Greenleaf]

I like it. Good idea. Makes sense don't it? The ACLU (Another Christian Liberty Undone) share the same view. They want to rid the country of anything that ofends people such as the prayer in school and any gov. activity as well as observing Christian holidays. Prayer is really offensive to many Americans these days as are many Christian beliefs for some very good reasons.



What I do not agree with is that God fearing Americans are of the majority. I do not mean the folks who lead a life based opon Christian culture. I'm refering to folks who are salt and light unto the lost world.



The majority of Americans lead a life based upon Christian "Culture" as opposed to Christian life. There is a big difference.



The "cultural" Americans do not want the "lifestyle" Americans imposing upon their way of life because it disrupts it.



Scott

 

[BillH]

skobylenski,



You missed the whole point, so don't get excited.

 

[skobylenski]

No, I didn't miss the whole point, I think you're saying that government workers should work 7 days a week, 365 days a year, and not get paid any extra for it. Why should only government workers have to do this? Why not you and me too? I don't get it...



I think you're just not being tolerant of people who have differnt views as you. I'm not religious, my family isn't either, never have been, never will be. Yet, we celebrate Christmas by exchanging gifts. Are we somehow bad for this? I don't think so. I also go to a STATE school, yet we get Christmas off, Thankgiving off, Easter off, you get the picture. Why don't we go to school on these holidays? Because that's not how the world works, never has, never will. I understand what you're saying, and you idea will never become a reality, sorry.



The only reason that the govenment wants to take God away is because not everyone believes in the same God, and some people don't even believe there is any God. You can't run a nation by telling everyone to believe in the same "God" (unless you want to turn America into pre-World War Nazi Germany. Somehow I don't think that would work, we're a stronger nation than the Jew's in Germany were, and you'll never get everyone to follow the orders of someone who thinks that the nation should be run based on Christian beliefs.



The reason my family doesn't practice religion is becasue my dad was raised Catholic, and my mom was raised my her Jewish father and Christian mother. Can you see the potential for problem here? You know what happened? They both gave up their religion because they knew that they're LOVE for each other was stronger than they're respective religions. Huh, imagine that, they gave up religion for love. I bet you never even THOUGHT of that, right? What this country needs is more love, not more religion.

 

[SOLER]

No, I didn't miss the whole point,

Yes, you did.



The point wasn't that postal workers should work on Christmas. The point was that the boogers that want to remove all semblence of God, not religion, but God, from everything, are the same ones that want to take the "religious" holidays off. The bean counters aren't to blame, but the policy makers.



SOLER

 

[crobertson1]

Frank,

You sure stirred the pot now.



skobylenski,

You're still missing the point. It's irony. The policy makers don't want God recognized, but want the convenient benefits of a Christian society, such as paid holidays off. See?



Craig

 

[fkovalski]

Apologies if this offended...

Meanings get lost in the written word. I did not mean to offend anyone by posting this. I did mean for it to raise the irony of Government policy. That is, using an ideal for ones use as it fits them but not anyone else. It was meant to be more of a "tongue- in- cheek" representation of how two- faced our government can be. I did not intend to offend anyone. MODERATOR: I probably should have posted this elsewhere- please move this thread to the "Political Forum" if more appropriate.

 

[curatchko]

C'mon this ain't ROCKET SCIENCE!!! He was only trying to make a point, NOT make your family work 7 days a week... . Good grief it's no wonder people will vote for Kerry... .

 

[skobylenski]

Good grief it's no wonder people will vote for Kerry... .

Now what the hell is that supposed to mean? On second thought, don't answer that, I've heard all the excuses, and besides, it has nothing to do with the topic at hand, and it's obvious you're voting for Bush.



At any rate, why don't we all just agree to disagree on this one. Nothing is going to change, so bringing up something like this is totally pointless.



I guess the actual point wasn't stated clearly in that article, so why in the world are people accusing me of missing the point? As far as I can tell, we all have our own opinion of what the point was, and it's clear that we're never going to agree on what writer had intended to say. If I ever happen to run into him, I'll ask him what he was trying to say, then we'll duke it out. Of course, that, again, will be pointless, because he's going to defend his views, and me mine, so we'll probably end up just like this, only maybe he (or she), won't get all huffy because I want to express a different point of view.



In response to Frank: I see what you mean by the govenrment being two-faced. I transferred colleges after one semester, and at my new school last January, it was a total uphill battle with the administration. I was technically still a freshman, yet I was classified as a transfer some of the time, and as a freshman some of the time. Essentially, it was a way for them to get the most money out of me, while not giving me freshman aid because I was a transfer, and not giving me trasfer aid because I was a freshman, all while not caring how many times I was dragged through the mud. Of course, sending in the big guns (the parents who are still paying a part of the bill), helped a bit



I'm done with this topic, it's useless for me to waste my time on it.

 

[MFalkinham]

... ... ... . You can't run a nation by telling everyone to believe in the same "God" (unless you want to turn America into pre-World War Nazi Germany. Somehow I don't think that would work, we're a stronger nation than the Jew's in Germany were, and you'll never get everyone to follow the orders of someone who thinks that the nation should be run based on Christian beliefs... ... ... ... ... . Huh, imagine that, they gave up religion for love. I bet you never even THOUGHT of that, right? What this country needs is more love, not more religion.

This thread needs to be moved into the Politics forum ASAP!! As a practicing Lutheran (a Christian religion that was brought to America by immigrants from Germany), I don't appreciate these implied comparisons of Christians to the hateful Nazis. Why do some people in this country feel that religious people are "hateful" and want to impose Christian beliefs on others? Part of our Christian faith involves mission work, and we will always seek and welcome unbelievers to join us for worship and learning about God, but we have never tried to force our faith onto other people. Please don't try to force your unbelief on us.



- Mike

 

[Bertram65]

Aww, but I like The Simpson's



Seriously, though, my girlfriend's father is a city letter carrier, and he works a MINIMUM of 60 hours a week, and usually 70-80 hours, especially during the holidays. You're telling me he should be working on Sunday, too, just so you can get your freaking mail a day earlier? Give me (and him, for that matter) a break. Our postal services are already spread paper thin, having to do 2 adn 3 times the amount of work specified in their contracts because the postal service refuses to hire more carriers. Here's a prime example: I was planning on getting a job over the summer in the same carrier's annex as my girlfriend's father. Too bad 3 days after I got my application in, the head of the USPS (the big-wig in Washington), ordered that all part-time workers be laid off by the end of the following day. Needless to say, the work load about tripled for the the full-timers, and I didn't get a job. I'm not crying about not getting a job (that's another issue for later), I'm crying about the fact that people think that government workers should have to work more, when in fact, they could have the designated days off that their contracts specify if the government would simply wake the kcuf up and hire some more employees.



Get a life...

I understand the point of the origional post but, unless your girlfriend's father is a salary employee, which I do not think letter carriers are, I am sure he is being well compansated for his 60 to 80 hour weeks. The rules for overtime are insane. I bet most of the state/goverment workers would work on Sunday if they could, probably tripple time. I would like to see what all the goverment and state workers would do if they could only work 40 hours, they would propably quit. Highest paid town employee in my town of 11,000 made over $120K last year, it was a cop, who was also a part time firefighter and worked a lot of details.

 

[Motofreak]

I thought it was a great post and not that hard to understand. Also agree that the dude that got excited is most likely a Kerry fan,

 

[Greenleaf]

I like it. It made a good point. A fun thread to read.



Scott

 

[skobylenski]

This thread needs to be moved into the Politics forum ASAP!! As a practicing Lutheran (a Christian religion that was brought to America by immigrants from Germany), I don't appreciate these implied comparisons of Christians to the hateful Nazis. Why do some people in this country feel that religious people are "hateful" and want to impose Christian beliefs on others? Part of our Christian faith involves mission work, and we will always seek and welcome unbelievers to join us for worship and learning about God, but we have never tried to force our faith onto other people. Please don't try to force your unbelief on us.



- Mike

And I missed the point? Oye vey :-laf