The other side of the story in Iraq

[Sled Puller]

http://www.washtimes.com/commentary/20030513-623205.htm



Heaven forbid the press report this in the mainstream.

 

[merryman]

Come on Sled Puller; you know the main stream press is too busy to play around with minor stuff like that.



Most of them are devoting most of their efforts to trying to make Bush look bad; afterall, to them the real danger is that HE might get re-elected. Now that is something they really worry about.

So far they have not been able to come up with a real candidate, but they will keep at it.



Vaughn

 

[Champane Flight]

I have heard all of this from mainstream.

I have heard all of this from mainstream news. The only thing missing is the WMD we went in for? Lots of clues, but no cigar. Remember, we had people that loved the Americans in Nam to. We have a long way to go, we will see if they still love us when they realise we won't let them have a Ayatolla (sp) for president. And lets see if we all still love the idea of being in Iraq after a few years of chicken (suicide) bombing of our troops.

 

[Hohn]

wisdom from CF^^^^^^



Good post.



Hohn

 

[rich m]

Ahhh, yes, the no WMD comment again...

... Let's follow a bit of logic, shall we?



Hussein-shoes on? Good.

In the mid-80's you and the US decide to act sort of like allies.

In this arrangement you obtain some of our WMD's because you (and we) don't like Iran. You even expend some. Right or wrong, we turn our heads, and don't say much.



Time marches on.



Iran's no longer your problem (real or otherwise). You start getting the idea that you need to invade someone else. Kuwait happens to be right there... . but the US decides that was NOT a proper thing to do. (We kind of liked Kuwait)... . Desert Shield happens, followed by Desert Storm, which was, to date, the Mother of All A$$-kickin's... . Then some resolutions are proposed, ratified, and enacted by the US and the Socialist Dictator Club at the UN... . One of the stipulations, which an Iraqi representative SIGNED was to destroy, with witnesses, any and all WMD in Iraq's possession.



Time marches on.



Some of that stuff is disposed of, but not all. The entire planet is happy at the progress, but apprehensive at the incompleteness.



1998 happens. . the UN WMD destroyers are kicked out of the country. There's some dispute. . "Kicked out" by Iraq, or "called out" by the US/UN? Called out for their own safety is the picture that gets painted. I suspect that to be, BTW an accurate evaluation.



More resolutions from the UN...

More stalling, hem-hawing, and foot-dragging, especially on the parts of the countries that have illegal (I'm being generous to the UN at this point... I personally don't respect anything that the UN wants to call a "law") trade agreements with Iraq... the "Axis of Weasel" countries.



Time marches on, and begins to run out, quickly.



Operation Iraqi Freedom happens. It's a big success from several viewpoints.



1... WMD didn't get used. (some would call that "moot" and scream "there weren't any", but others, like myself, say, "They were hidden and the potential users didn't get to them in time"



2... Civilian casualties were kept to a minimum... NO, DAMMIT, the count was not "zero", but guess what? 3 weeks worth of warfare from us cost them fewer lives than one or two days' worth of a Saddam temper tantrum... Sucks to be one of the dead or wounded, but, statistically, the population was safer with our war than it was before it.



3... the Regime is dissolved... If the populace behaves itself in a civil manner, they actually have (here comes my optimism) a chance at becoming a respectable nation, with a government that is not, by its very existence, a crime against humanity.



4... A few of the other countries looked at our successes in Afghanistan and Iraq, and are at least going thru the motions of goal-oriented diplomacy.



5... Here's an analogy that you might not appreciate: (may or may not apply in your state or municipality, but, humor me, OK?)



If a cop finds a crack-pipe, sneak-a-toke, or other piece of "drug paraphernalia" in your possession, that's "probable cause", and you're going to have some legal troubles stemming from same, even if they test "negative" for drugs.

Our people have found oodles of WMD paraphernalia.



Bio-lab trailers... sheep herders don't need something like that.



Warheads that were designed to carry liquids rather than HE. They weren't going to water a farm-field real fast with those.



"Insecticides"... in a bunker??? Do you not realize that "nerve gases" are typically organophosphate pesticides that have been "BOMBed" to have a fast effect on people? If you've ever seen a farmer with malathion toxicity, you've seen nerve agent symptoms... . Malathion's generally mild enough to not kill a human. Flies don't go to the doctor, whereas Farmer Brown will. If you want Farmer Brown to drop like a fly, make the malathion faster than his 9-1-1 call... That's a nerve agent.

... . I repeat... . "IN A BUNKER??" someone was up to no good. Farmer Abdullah couldn't afford a bunker, and wouldn't have been allowed near the storage facility. That stuff was NOT intended to be just fly poison.



Back to the bio-lab trailers... . They have only one use. Making war-bugs. If the scientists happen to have been inept, and unsuccessful, prosecuting them does NOT present an ethical problem to the US... . Attempted Murder is a crime, just like Successful Murder..... Do you get the picture? Johnny Cochran would have a lot of trouble defending the Hussein administration. OJ's case was easier, from the standpoint of POSSESSION, and from the standpoint of PAST HISTORY.



OK, so we haven't gotten actual WMD... "they" haven't convinced us of their complete destruction. What happened to them? they had since 1998 to hide them, or to distribute them, or to destroy them. They are, therefore, either hidden or distributed.



If they were destroyed, they should have allowed witnesses, so that the rest of the world could observe their truthfulness.



OJ walked. Some of us learned a lesson that day. Some, obviously, have not.



sorry for long post... . just couldn't let that one sit out there, spinning for all eternity... .

 

[rMetzger]

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