Thinking of Getting a 2nd Gen Crew Cab

[CrewCabDiesel]

Would you all believe that I am considering selling my Crew Cab and getting a 2nd Gen Crew Cab/Extended Cab Truck ? After the pulls at Thunder, I think I will start looking for a 2nd gen Quad cab to add 2 more doors to. I am thinking of getting a 1998 W3500 Dually Quad Cab to get around some of the 24V problems. Or is it worth getting a 2000/01 HO with a 6 speed ?

Also does anyone know of one of these truck that is for sale ? And where is the best place to send one for the conversion ? Any help would be great.

Kyle

 

[Hutchew]

You're a sick, sick man.............

But I would sure like to have one myself. Guess I'm stuck driving a Furd till Dodge gets it together and builds a real 4 door that isn't fugly. OR I could stuff a Cummins in my Ford, only got 90,000 left on the warranty.

Good luck, and BTW, what did you do on the dyno?

 

[GFoley]

There was an article in the last TDR about custom conversion. The company is in MN.

 

[CrewCabDiesel]

She Dinoed out at 196Hp and 670 foot lbs torque at the wheels. Truck was NOT up to running temp and I didn't have the time to turn up the pump. I had turned down the injection pump when I installed the POD injectors to save tires(I took off an 1/8 inch of tread on a set of Goodyear ATS 16--75-285 in a week) and keep the temps from going above 1200 degrees. Not to mention everyone who I talked to said the dino was showing LOW numbers both HP & torque. So I am VERY happy with those numbers . The bonus is I get 23-25mpg highway, & 14-16 towing a 29' 5th wheel !!!

Kyle

 

[EricBu12]

Here is the company that can stretch our trucks



http://www.dealsonwheels.com/parts/bayer/



Want a 6 door?:--)

 

[Hutchew]

That's too cool..........

But I bet they are pricey. Nice looking work.



Crewcab, impressive numbers on the dyno. Congrats.

 

[Todd T]

Kyle, i am building one now. keep an eye out for my posts in the 12v section.



i plan to post pictures and will share my experience with anyone who asks.



I am just building a crew (4 door) as my truck is not a dually and would look stupid with that many doors and single wheels.



mine will be a 4X4 crew cab short bed single rear wheel. similar to a F250 4X4 crew cab short bed.



its not as hard as it looks,

Todd

 

[Cummins Corvette]

Just curious...

What do ya'all do to the frame? I hear that welding the frame will make it crack. It would be bad to put all that work into a truck and have it break in half down the road. How do you keep this from happening?

 

[Todd T]

Ya Chris, that would be pretty embarrassing



the proper way to weld a frame is to notch it in a V shape not just a straight vertical cut, < not |. then you weld it and back it with a plate that is drilled and bolted. it is best to sandwhich the welded section with blocker plates but at least one side will do. i also will be assisted by a licensed welder (journeyman pipefitter) friend of mine to weld me up.



i have to cut my frame and weld in about two feet of another frame. so i will have four cuts to weld and plate. I am using another Dodge frame which is good from the same metal and process types standpoint.



thanks for the frame, Big DQ





Todd

 

[Cummins Corvette]

Thanks

 

[w-cummins]

Originally posted by Todd T

Ya Chris, that would be pretty embarrassing



the proper way to weld a frame is to notch it in a V shape not just a straight vertical cut, < not |. then you weld it and back it with a plate that is drilled and bolted. it is best to sandwhich the welded section with blocker plates but at least one side will do. i also will be assisted by a licensed welder (journeyman pipefitter) friend of mine to weld me up.



i have to cut my frame and weld in about two feet of another frame. so i will have four cuts to weld and plate. I am using another Dodge frame which is good from the same metal and process types standpoint.



thanks for the frame, Big DQ





Todd

The frame should be plated with a "fish" plate on each side and they should be welded on too. Your weldor buddy will know about them if he has worked on truck frames before. You could also fish plate the flanges too, but remember that the frame is made to twist.



William...

 

[JBlock]

Plate the Upper and Lower Flanges

I am a Mechanical Engineer, and the recommendation to plate both sides is good. Definately reinforce the lower flange as well, as it the tension member when the truck is loaded. THe bending on the upper flange is in compression, it would be a good idea to reinforce it as well, probably not as critial. We stretch a 6000 pound Packard Classic Limo frame that way with no problems, the web reinforcement helps with the torsion, but the load is on the flanges.



cheer Joe

 

[CrewCabDiesel]

Scratch the idea of getting a 2nd gen for now. Listed my crew cab on the TDR classified and I am now getting morons calling at 10:30 at night and offering $10K for the truck. Last I looked you can't buy a nice low mileage 1st gen Cummins for that.

Kyle