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Are the TIPMs prone to failures or have they been acting pretty good. If i am having mine replaced for no wipers what are the chances it will fail again.



I have done some searches and it doesnt seem to find too many guys with problems with them so i was just curious what you guys think about them...



oh and i have a 2006 ctd.
 
From what I have been hearing from Marco the TIPM is a POS and is prone to troubles.



The TIPM problems can leave you stranded with no warning #@$%!



I will dig up the information that I have and will post it up tomorrow morning.
 
I havent read of any failures caused by the TIPM itself, just after one of them has been overloaded.

Still a stupid idea if you ask me.
 
great just what i wanted to hear! lol



Who is Marco?



Marco is the developer of the smarty ecm tuner and Marco know these truck like the back of his hands. Knowledge second to none



NO RESPONSE FROM TIPM (TOTALLY INTEGRATED POWER MODULE)



For a complete wiring diagram



Refer to Section 8W.

Possible Causes



FUSED B (+) CIRCUITS OPEN



FUSED IGNITION SWITCH OUTPUT CIRCUITS OPEN



GROUND CIRCUITS OPEN



CAN C DIAGNOSTIC CIRCUITS OPEN



CAN C DIAGNOSTIC CIRCUITS SHORTED TO GROUND



CAN C DIAGNOSTIC CIRCUITS SHORTED TOGETHER



TOTALLY INTEGRATED POWER MODULE



Diagnostic Test



1.



TEST FOR INTERMITTENT CONDITION

Turn the ignition on.



NOTE: Ensure the IOD fuse is installed and battery voltage is between 10. 0 and 16. 0 volts.



NOTE: Ensure the scan tool is updated to the latest software.



NOTE: If the scan tool displays any error messages involving the CAN C Diagnostic circuits, diagnose and



repair the error message before proceeding. Refer to the Table of Contents.



NOTE: A loss of communication with the TIPM can cause the ECU View button on the scan tool to be inoperative



(not highlighted).



With the scan tool, attempt to select ECU view.



Can the scan tool communicate with the TIPM?



Yes



>> The no response condition is not present at this time. Using the wiring diagram/schematic as a guide,

inspect the wiring for chafed, pierced, pinched, and partially broken wires and the wiring harness connectors



for broken, bent, pushed out, and corroded terminals.



No



>> Go To 2

2.



FUSED B (+) CIRCUITS OPEN AT TIPM

Disconnect the scan tool from the DLC.



Using a 12-volt test light connected to ground, and using the wiring diagram as a guide, check all Fused B (+)



circuits.



Does the test light illuminate brightly for each circuit?



Yes



>> Go To 3

No



>> Repair the Fused B(+) circuit that did not light the test light for an open or short.

Perform BODY VERIFICATION TEST - VER 1. (Refer to 8 - ELECTRICAL/ELECTRONIC CONTROL



MODULES - STANDARD PROCEDURE)



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ELECTRONIC CONTROL MODULES - ELECTRICAL DIAGNOSTICS 8E - 167

3.



FUSED IGNITION SWITCH OUTPUT CIRCUITS OPEN AT TIPM

Turn the ignition on.



Using a 12-volt test light connected to ground, and using the wiring diagram as a guide, check each Fused Ignition



Switch Output circuit.



Does the test light illuminate brightly for each circuit?



Yes



>> Go To 4

No



>> Repair the Fused Ignition Switch Output circuit that did not light the test light for an open.

Perform BODY VERIFICATION TEST - VER 1. (Refer to 8 - ELECTRICAL/ELECTRONIC CONTROL



MODULES - STANDARD PROCEDURE)



4.



GROUND CIRCUITS OPEN AT TIPM

Turn the ignition off.



Using a 12-volt test light connected to 12-volts, and using the wiring diagram as a guide, check all ground circuits.



Does the test light illuminate brightly on each circuit?



Yes



>> Go To 5

No



>> Repair the ground circuit that did not light the test light for an open.

Perform BODY VERIFICATION TEST - VER 1. (Refer to 8 - ELECTRICAL/ELECTRONIC CONTROL



MODULES - STANDARD PROCEDURE)



5.



CHECK FOR (D52) CAN C DIAGNOSTIC (+) CIRCUIT OPEN AT DLC

Disconnect the TIPM C6 harness connector.



Measure the resistance on the D52 CAN C Diagnostic (+) circuit



between the TIPM C6 harness connector and the DLC



Is the resistance above 10 ohms?



Yes



>> Repair the D52 CAN C Diagnostic (+) circuit for an open.

Perform BODY VERIFICATION TEST - VER 1. (Refer to 8 -



ELECTRICAL/ELECTRONIC CONTROL MODULES -



STANDARD PROCEDURE)



No



>> Go To 6

8E - 168 ELECTRONIC CONTROL MODULES - ELECTRICAL DIAGNOSTICS



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6.



CHECK FOR (D51) CAN C DIAGNOSTIC (-) CIRCUIT OPEN AT DLC

Measure the resistance on the D51 CAN C Diagnostic (-) circuit



between the TIPM C6 harness connector and the DLC



Is the resistance above 10 ohms?



Yes



>> Repair the D51 CAN C Diagnostic (-) circuit for an open.

Perform BODY VERIFICATION TEST - VER 1. (Refer to 8 -



ELECTRICAL/ELECTRONIC CONTROL MODULES -



STANDARD PROCEDURE)



No



>> Go To 7

7.



CHECK FOR CAN C DIAGNOSTIC CIRCUITS SHORTED TOGETHER

Measure the resistance between the (D52) CAN C Diagnostic (+) circuit



and the (D51) CAN C Diagnostic (-) circuit at the TIPM C6 harness connector.



Is the resistance below 100. 0 ohms?



Yes



>> Repair the (D52) CAN C Diagnostic (+) circuit for a short to

the (D51) CAN C Diagnostic (-) circuit.



Perform BODY VERIFICATION TEST – VER 1. (Refer to 8



- ELECTRICAL/ELECTRONIC CONTROL MODULES -



STANDARD PROCEDURE).



No



>> Replace the Totally Integrated Power Module in accordance

with the service information.



Perform BODY VERIFICATION TEST – VER 1. (Refer to 8



- ELECTRICAL/ELECTRONIC CONTROL MODULES -



STANDARD PROCEDURE).



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ELECTRONIC CONTROL MODULES - ELECTRICAL DIAGNOSTICS 8E - 169
 
we have had a few issues with the tipm's getting over loaded. and like stated above not the best idea dodge has had.
 
I was waiting for the Mega cab with a 6 spd till I saw some advance info on the 06 electronics(mainly TIPM) . Then I had to rush around to find an 05,unable to find a 6 spd in Cali,I am stuck with an auto.

I haven't seen as many failures as I thought we would see. Most have been on trucks that tow but not all. Some have made their own trailer tow harnesses with fuses to help save the tipm in case of any shorts in the trailer wiring.



Bob
 
so it sounds like for the number of trucks/cars these things are in there is really not that many failures for what they do.
 
Mine left me stranded last week with a dead key. I had full battery, all accesories, just no power to the starter. Waited 6... 6 hours for DC roadside. Good thing I was at the local Blockbuster about 5 minutes from home. No warning, the truck runs super and then no start. Got it to dealer next day. Cleared one code and she started right up. Took about 2 minutes once they had the starscan hooked up. I got a flash for the too many shorts thing. Never had a problem with any of my trailer lights. They can reset it five times and then it must be replaced. I may have to carry a spare with the flash to be safe. Not cheap and no good at all if this happened out in the boonies with three horses in the trailer and no cell service. I am going to check if there is a work around the skim and tipm after the warrantee is gone. 21,200 miles and first issue with the truck.
 
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