Tire Wear?

[rrl989]

<6K miles and I'm seeing the front end tires with significant wear on the outer edges. No pulling or steering issues just really obvious
wear when compared to the rears. Is there any warranty for alignments on new trucks?

 

[gsbrockman]

I've read on other forums that alignments fall within the 12 month / 12k mile warranty. Depending on how much and how heavy you're towing, what you're seeing might be perfectly normal though.

 

[JLandry]

...I'm seeing the front end tires with significant wear on the outer edges.

Based on having 3.73:1 rear axle on the truck in your sig, you have a dually. Correct?

Assuming so, what brand / style of tires (highway or off-road) does your truck have?

How much pressure are you running in the fronts? With the truck empty, they probably shouldn't be less than 70 psi.

Is there any warranty for alignments on new trucks?

As gsbrockman said, Chrysler's basic warranty covers wheel alignment for 12 years or 12,000 miles... whichever comes first. The tires have their own separate warranty from the tire manufacturer.

Best regards,

John L.

 

[tony1461571]

Based on having 3.73:1 rear axle on the truck in your sig, you have a dually. Correct?

Assuming so, what brand / style of tires (highway or off-road) does your truck have?

How much pressure are you running in the fronts? With the truck empty, they probably shouldn't be less than 70 psi.

As gsbrockman said, Chrysler's basic warranty covers wheel alignment for 12 years or 12,000 miles... whichever comes first. The tires have their own separate warranty from the tire manufacturer.

Best regards,

John L.

Oh no type O, 12 months I think. I was wondering about the brand as well looked at some 3500s the other day seen a tire on them, I've never seen before anyone ever heard of Nexen looked them up online seen them only online like Tire Rack and in Walmart stores. not sure if they were all season or on/off road.

 

[Cummins12V98]

Toe in from factory is 1/4". Take it to someone and set to 1/16". Also sell the POS Generals while you can get some money out of them and install Michelin MS2's You will thank me.

Mine made it 25k and were 2/3 worn and tread separation on front tire. Michelins now have 25K and look near new.

I run fronts 80 all the time and rear solo 45 and 60 loaded with 4,500# pin weight.

 

[Wingate]

the POS Generals

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I cannot begin to tell you how much I agree with this statment!

 

[Cummins12V98]

I cannot begin to tell you how much I agree with this statment!

Sounds like they have dumped the General for a no name tire. My new 15 WILL HAVE Michelins!

 

[gsbrockman]

Not sure why all of the hatin' :-laf on the General tires.......my '13 RAM 3500 has them, and at 42,159 they're doing great (as are the same tires on my '14 RAM 3500).
L/F has 7-7-8/32nds remaining.
R/F has 8-7-8/32nds remaining.
L/O/R has 8-7-8/32nds remaining. L/I/R has 7-8-8/32nds remaining.
R/O/R has 8-7-9/32nds remaining. R/I/R has 7-7-8/32nds remaining.
Spare shows 16/32nds as a reference.
I'd imagine these will easily go 70,000 to 74,000 miles if the same care is shown. Wet traction is good as when new. Zero ride disturbances on both trucks.
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LT235/80R17 General Ameri*Trac TR's in OWL.

 

[Cummins12V98]

gsbrockman

You are one of the lucky few. I would easily get over 100K with 3rd ten michelin or BFg's on my 98 4x4 2500. I properly inflated them but they were just junk!

Happy to see someone is getting good service out of them.

BTW nice looking trucks!

 

[skorski]

If your tires are wearing on the outside edges you are under inflated , wearing in the middle is over inflated. And it don't take long to show wear. Outside wear and middle wear has nothing to do with alignment.

 

[Wingate]

I think that maybe there are some differences between the tire that comes new on a truck and the same size/brand tire you purchase at the local tire shop.
I am of the opinion that the tires that come on the new trucks are simply built based on the "lowest bidder gets the contract" mentality..

 

[Cummins12V98]

I think that maybe there are some differences between the tire that comes new on a truck and the same size/brand tire you purchase at the local tire shop.
I am of the opinion that the tires that come on the new trucks are simply built based on the "lowest bidder gets the contract" mentality..

I think you are correct here. RAM used to provide quality tires on previous models.

 

[Cummins12V98]

If your tires are wearing on the outside edges you are under inflated , wearing in the middle is over inflated. And it don't take long to show wear. Outside wear and middle wear has nothing to do with alignment.

No disrespect but are an alignment specialist? The guy I have used for 30 years looked at mine after 7K and said the alignment was off even tho I had the alignment checked at May Madness in 12. They did nothing because 1/4" toe in is spec. That way they track down the road. My guy said it should be 1/16" and after that the edge wear did not get worse. I run 80psi in the fronts so under inflation is not the cause and yes it's a quality US calibrated gauge.

Since 25K when I installed the Michelin MS2's the tire wear is very even with 25K on the tires no where worn as the Generals.

 

[rrl989]

My tires are the optional off road DRW tires - General Ameritrac TR, no complaints on tire drivability, no vibration, great first year in snow, smooth hwy, quiet, etc.
I keep the fronts at 75psi, rears at 65psi. Truck so far is all empty driving. My guess from Cummins12V98 is it is a toe in issue, from what GS said on the warranty, I'll find out from the dealer as they owe me an oil/filter change on my next visit. This wear seems out of the norm with my low miles, hopefully Ram agrees on I'll be spending about $150 for an alignment.
Thanks for the input.

Pic shows my front outside wear (same on both fronts) with just under 6K miles
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Pic shows no wear on rear tire outside edge
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[Cummins12V98]

rrl989

Yours look great compared to mine with 6K wham I had the dealer do an alignment they they only checked!

 

[Hoefler]

With the long wheel base of the crew cab 4x4, you will push the tires in a tight turn, thus wearing the outside edge of the steer tires. Find you some clean concrete and turn the wheels close to the lock and drive in a circle, then get out and look at the concrete, you will see all the black marks you have left. My driveway has all the evidence you need since I turn tight in it every night. I run 80 psi in the fronts and 45 in the rears unless the 5ver is on, then it is 80 all around.

 

[Dieselnerd]

My tires are the optional off road DRW tires - General Ameritrac TR, no complaints on tire drivability, no vibration, great first year in snow, smooth hwy, quiet, etc.
I keep the fronts at 75psi, rears at 65psi. Truck so far is all empty driving. My guess from Cummins12V98 is it is a toe in issue, from what GS said on the warranty, I'll find out from the dealer as they owe me an oil/filter change on my next visit. This wear seems out of the norm with my low miles, hopefully Ram agrees on I'll be spending about $150 for an alignment.
Thanks for the input.

I have the General Ameritrac M+S on my DRW. Like you, I have no complaints about smoothness or drivability. I have just a little over 6K on mine and my fronts are wearing slightly on the outside edges similar to your pictures. I keep my fronts at 80 pounds all the time. There is not a dramatic difference between the fronts and the outside rears but enough that it can be seen if you look carefully.

Since there is also camber as well as toe in on the fronts, I just assumed the wear pattern was normal and maybe it is. Time will tell, I'm not going to mess with alignment on a truck that tracks well and doesn't have any pull to either side at this time.

 

[rrl989]

Hoefler- You're probably right to an extent but I had a previous long WB Ram and did not notice this type of wear so fast, had Michelin LTX's as OEM, then XPS later.
The OEM plus the one set of XPS replacements got me to 185K miles.

Dieselnerd - I'll probably just replace the fronts when they wear out and the rear duals will likely still have plenty of meat left. I probably won't rotate.

 

[Too Tall]

No disrespect but are an alignment specialist? The guy I have used for 30 years looked at mine after 7K and said the alignment was off even tho I had the alignment checked at May Madness in 12. They did nothing because 1/4" toe in is spec. That way they track down the road. My guy said it should be 1/16" and after that the edge wear did not get worse. I run 80psi in the fronts so under inflation is not the cause and yes it's a quality US calibrated gauge.

Since 25K when I installed the Michelin MS2's the tire wear is very even with 25K on the tires no where worn as the Generals.

It's not clear to me what the Op's tire looks like. If the original post is saying that both front tires were wearing on the outer edges of each tire, wouldn't it be more likely the tires are under inflated? (see chart below) Wouldn't tow in or tow out only affect one side of each tire? Just asking, I'm not an alignment expert either.

 

[Dieselnerd]

It's just the outside edge on each front tire, not both edges!!!