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What's the best method or tool to bar the engine to do the governor spring install? I also will be installing 60# exhaust springs in the future and, if I need to buy a tool, I might as well get what works for both.



Also, is there any more complete instructions on the install than what come from Piers? I'm probably just less experienced than the average guy on this kind of work.
 
I used his instructions the 1st time I did a GSK.....

I was a little nervous, but it went just fine.



If your idle is too high when you are done - the springs are too tight.

If your idle is too low when you are done - the springs are too loose.



(I believe that this is true... unless my memory is failing me)



Don't worry, you'll be happy in the long run... :D



Worst case scenario... you get the adjustment wrong and you have to call Piers @ 604-853-9396 and have him walk you through it.



Matt
 
"What's the best method or tool to bar the engine to do the governor spring install? "



The only tool you need is a socket to grab the altenator nut. It wont turn the engine foward,but it will go backwards. I used it to run my valves and the GSK install. No biggee. :cool:
 
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Use the alternator nut to turn the engine. Remember, you have to turn the crankshaft 360 degrees to get to the second set of springs.



Found an easy way to get to the springs. Pull the plastic liner in the left fender well and you get a straight shot to the side of the pump. Found this out while I was looking for the retainer nut I dropped while intalling the springs in the side plug from under the hood.



Jeff
 
More install instructions

Believer,



I just did mine yesterday. Here's a link (I hope) to a thread from back in August where HEMIDart included some more detail. This helped me a lot:



https://www.turbodieselregister.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=22748



BTW: my truck is an early '98 with the 215 pump. I don't think this makes any difference, however.



Here's what I can add. I went through the plug on the side. I had to cut the sealing wire, which requires a committment to "violating" the pump. On the other hand, I have a plate and the AFC kit, so... However, since the springs are right there, I felt it was probably easier then coming down through the cam plate hole.



I found that removing the shut off solenoid did not give me the clearance I needed to remove the plug. There is an arm held on by 2 10mm bolts that hold a stop screw that the shut-off lever will hit against. I loosened the rear one and removed the forward one (don't lose the spacer) and rotated it up.



I still couldn't get the plug out 'cause it hit the bolt that holds the shut-off lever on it's shaft. I needed to remove that. I was real leery about doing that because I wasn't sure I could put it back on in exactly the right place. It turns out it has a woodruff (?) key. The bolt is 8mm. The arm slides right off. Just don't loose that little key. With the AFC housing off and these two levers out of the way, access is pretty good.



Another thing mentioned by HEMIDart but not in Piers's instructions, there are 4 springs. The 3 inner ones are replaced by Piers's 2. So the inner-most, smallest one does not have an equivalent in Piers's kit.



I tried to paint the keeper nut like the instructions show, but the paint didn't stick (even wiped the keeper down with carb cleaner).

I measured from the slot to the top of the stud and from the raised surface of the keeper to the top of the stud to get 2 measurements. This helped a great deal. Be aware your caliper can show big reading swings depending on how off-parallel you are to the stud when measuring. 2 different measurements helped.



I used not only the pencil magnet but a dental pick as well. The springs are nearly horizontal when working through the plug and that made it a little trickier getting them out. The pick helped since it's hooked. A small stiff wire with a hook on the end would work. You're not likely to loose a spring in the governor housing, except for maybe the smallest one, but you could loose a shim or a spring seat. Just take your time.



I found that pulling springs out from the biggest to the smallest worked best. Watch for shims. Only those on the biggest spring, if any, are retained. None of the big shims came out on mine. Only the one on the next-to-the-smallest spring came out. Once the springs are out the magnet works good to pull the seats and shims (if not stuck to the spring) out.



Work in reverse to put the new ones in (seat first, then smallest to biggest springs).



My retainer nut did not screw back to exactly the same position to get to the original measurements. So measure several times before removing it and trust them when putting it back on.



Have a really good light right down the hole when working. A tube-shaped flourescent work light is ideal. Also, A mirror on a stick helps to look in the hole to verify things.



The first set took me about a half-hour or 45 minutes since I was nervous and very careful. The second set took me about 15 mintues or less.



I must have done it right because my test drive went perfect. Idled just like it did before. Rev'ed right to 3500 easily.



Take your time, take a deep breath, and go for it.



-Jay
 
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I installed the springs last night. I was told by a fellow member to go into the plug and not the top. That was good advice. I did not take off the arm on pump that is over the plug, but I had to rotate it to the exact spot to get the plug out. The first thing that I didnot like was the oil that ran on my foor of my shop when I pulled out the plug. I wish I had pulled out the plastic liner that is mentioned in another post. Hard to see in the hole. I was not sure what the bottom seat was and there are alot of shims in there also. I thought is this all of the shims or did one fall into the oil in the pump. Finally when I got it back together I started the truck up and it ran fine, go idle ect . I wont to thank Chris and few others for the help. Can the rubber boot be bought by itself for the fuel solenoid Thanks Jimk
 
I installed TST springs. If you go by his instructions it's a piece of cake. (you go thru the top) If you turn the motor over too far just use a socket & ratchet on the crank and turn it back. Also I would highly recomend a ditigtal caliper to take the measurement from the end of the treads to the top of the nut holding the springs. (after you read the instructions you'll know what I mean. ) take the measurement several times as it's not easy to get the same dim. two times in a row! After getting this setting back to original I had no problems. The process really is very easy just a little time consuming. Took me 2 1/2 hrs total from start to finish and that included adjusting the AFC housing a couple times.

No special tools although I did grind an old screw driver to fit the nut holding the springs.

Lonnie
 
I just installed another set of 3K through the top, in a friends 98 the other night. Man it is so easy. You only need a long screwdriver and a pencil magnet. You can measure the retainer nut by counting the turns(degrees) while backing the nut till flush with the stud. Use the screwdriver to feel when it's flush. Write it down, R&R springs, find flush, turn in correct amount, button it up, done! Instant additional 1000rpm. Works great with his stock engine/auto. Made a nice easy and inexpensive improvement.



I highly recommend this mod.
 
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