A also have a serious tool jones, one example would be the brake lathe I got from snap on cost 7500 when I found the manufacture selling it with a bench for 4500 , do'nt start yet I know they have to make a profit [ but there spouse to get a volume and resale distcount] and they used to provide a good service, but then to be fair they have only had 2 scanners over the yrs. unlike otc . rant off for now.