Toyo durability?

[jsnyder]

Gonna need some new rubber soon, so I've been doing some research on tires. A search on the TDR showed that some members have had very good luck with Toyo M55s. So, I calls up my local Toyo dealer and he quotes me $160. 00 per tire, for LT235/85s!



I asked him about the durability of this tire and he told me that they used to be a very good tire, but Toyo has lightened them up a bit and they don't last like they used to. He also said they suck on ice, although he agreed that center siping would drastically improve the ice traction. He recommended I go with Yokohama Geolander's at $140 per tire (mount/balance/road hazard) instead.



So what's up here? What kind of luck are you folks having that are currently running Toyo's? Are you running the Open Country or the M55? Size? What did you pay for them? Seems like every shop around here wants an arm, leg, and my firstborn child for a set. I may end just stick with Coopers for the price.



TIA.



Jason

 

[Teacher]

toyo tires

I recently, end of summer, bought the Toyo Open Countrys from Les Schwab. They had a month long sale. The tires normally cost $140. 00 a piece (LT245 load range E). They sold for $120. 00. The verdict is still out on their performance and durability(especially on snow and ice) but so far I like them. One of the technicians said it was their best tire ever. The roundest tire they've ever sold. I believe they already come factory siped.

Hope this helps.

 

[JJW_ND]

I have ran both!

I ran two sets of Toyo M55. Got 55K out first and almost 70K out of second set. This was with lot of heavy towing and pulling. I have a get of geolanders on now and I doudt they will out last the Toyos.



M55's siped are awsome in Ice. When the last set was down to 5/32 tread depth going into the winter, I had then resiped. I could start out on a slight snow covered/ice incline in 2wd get moving. When they are new they really dig.



I can tell you a Geolander not siped (even new) does not have that kinda of traction. I am going to have my Geos siped next week as they need a little help on icey roads.



Both are good tires. If you run empty the wear might not be a difference. If towing or pulling allot, the M55 will outlast the Geos big time. I was paying 150 per tire for M55 and I paid 130 for the Geos (mounted balanced).



jjw

ND

 

[rwinslow]

I have run M55's for 15 years and have always had better than 50,000 miles per set. Never seen problems on ice, snow, or mud. May need to drop air pressure on ice but not necessary. They are a very good commercial tire. They have not been lightened up and on a $/mile basis they are the best investment for me.

 

[NevadaBadBoy]

I've been running Toyo M55 tires since 1999 after having a blow-out with GoodYear tires. A friend of mine in OR recommended them to me.



They are excellent in the snow, dirt, mud and on highways. My first set of Toyo M55s lastet me for 65K miles, and my current set it close to 23K now. I drive to Elko once a month (350 miles each way) and I tow a trailer. Even unloaded, I have a full toolbox in the back, plus a shell over the bed.

However, I have to rotate them more frequently than the 3000 mile interval to keep the cupping of the front tires to a minimum.



From now on, Toyo M55s are part of my truck. Even the spare tire.



The best deal I could get was from Les Schwab at $160/piece. The first set was just slightly over $145/piece, but that was a long time ago.



You will not regret your purchase.



Martin

 

[Morepower]

I bought my M55's from 1010tires.com and had them shipped from Canada for 70 bucks and the tires were 124 each.

 

[Neibe]

Hands down Michelin LTX AT are the best tire. I got 50,000 on them right now and it looks like they could go another 50,000. I do a fair amount of towing towing our 10,000 lb. 5th wheel and towing it fast 65-70 mph.

 

[Shooter]

What is the load range and size LTX AT you run???

Originally posted by Neibe

Hands down Michelin LTX AT are the best tire. I got 50,000 on them right now and it looks like they could go another 50,000. I do a fair amount of towing towing our 10,000 lb. 5th wheel and towing it fast 65-70 mph.

 

[BigMo]

Originally posted by Shooter

What is the load range and size LTX AT you run???

I have 68,000 miles on my first set of Michelins. They came on the truck from the factory, size 265/75-16s, Max load rating (E rated) of 3415 Lbs. @ Max 80 psi.



These have been GREAT tires. I'm now looking at replacing them with something like the Toyo Open Country A/T or the Nitto Terra Grappler All Terrain, either one in a larger size of 305/70-16. I wouldn't even be looking at another brand if the Michelins came in larger sizes!



I dunno though, the Michelins have been so good . . . . .

 

[RKohn]

FYI -

Toyo makes Nittos tires.



For what it's worth... I like mine so far.

 

[Reddog1]

I have the Toyo Open Countrys from Les Schwab. I bought them a few months ago. The wear does not appear to be very impressive. So far, I have only beem on dry pavement.



I may change my mind later, but I doubt I will buy another set.



Wayne

 

[Neibe]

Sorry it took so long to get back to you I don't get on the net much. I run load range E stock size 245 75R 16 I don't want a taller tire because I pull a 5th wheel a I have minimal bed to trailer clearance. I had ordered the 4:10 gears with the intent of running taller tires now I'm gled I did because of the trailer weight we pull.

 

[BigMo]

I went ahead with the Toyo purchase: 306/70x16. They look really good on the truck. The ride is great up to about 80, where the very slightest amount of vibration can be felt. Of course, I'm rather sensative to this, as the Michelin's had virtually NO VIBRATION, even at 68,000+ miles.