I got a stock 5 speed and it has 130,000 on it,at 110,000 I put in new bearings and seals the inside looked good. the gears didn't have any signs of excessive wear. The reason I put in seals and bearings was the stock clutch stared to slip with 5th wheel on the back and I installed a SBC clutch. We don't spare the ponies until we see 1250 deg. on the gauge.