Trans Pan Advice

[Dennis Koenig]

Has anyone out there used the B&M trans pan part no. 10280? It's 4 qts. over stock like the Mag-Hytec DD, but $100. cheaper. The only difference I see is the B&M does not have a hole for the temp. sender.

Just trying to save a few bucks for Xmas. Any opinions are appreciated.









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1995 Dodge 2500 Reg Cab 4x4, auto trans, 4" cat back exhaust, otherwise stock, 110k miles.

 

[Todd T]

havent used mine yet, its on the shelf until i rebuild the transmission. but yes it will work just fine. and the -$100 was a plus too. I planned to add some fittings to mine before i installed it. the lip on this thing is a 1/4 thick too I was thinking studs to hold it on with.

 

[PHaller]

Not only does the Mag High tek pan offer a temp sender port but it's aluminum construction offers incredible rigidity and heat dispersion not offered by steel pans.

The 727 variant trannys were never designed to be put behind an engine that produces major torque at 1600 RPM... they were put behind Cudas that made major torque at 5000 RPM. While they are good trannys and can tolerate high torque they are a pressure dependent transmission that requires RPM to generate pressure to keep clutches engaged and time to generate the pressures at high torque, like in a gas motor.

I have seen transmission cases cracked from the corner of the valve body pan opening because of the enormous torque generated at low RPM from an uprated Cummins. The large thick wall aluminum pan prevents the twisting of the case while also dispersing a lot of heat.

If you plan to tow or uprate the engine... do yourself a favor and buy the MHT pan. Most after market rebuiders of trannys sell their trannys with a MHT pan already installed to prevent twist in the case.

No, I do not work for them,

-Paul R. Haller-

 

[illflem]

The Mag-Hytec pans are nice but their price boarders on ridiculous.

Almost seems that they copied their pricing system from a Dodge dealer.

Where you guys getting the B&Ms?

 

[BillGotthelf]

The B&M pan has been on my 96 for the past 3 years. It appears to be the same thickness as other (higher priced) pans. It's very easy to tap (aluminum) just make sure to use some anti-sieze on the tap before you do it. Mine is mounted in the drivers side front side-straight shot for wiring up to gauge and nothing in the way in the pan. Oh a good idea would be to splice some waterproof connectors in line so that removal of trans pan does not necessitate cutting wires.

 

[rlittle]

I bought the PML pan which was about $140 including the temp sensor hole. The thing is very thick Aluminum and beautifully made. . Adds about 4 quarts of fluid. Look on the internet for their website.

Rollie

 

[BFC]

Does it fit on a 47re?



Glenn

 

[Ben Rumson]

... The only difference I see is the B&M does not have a hole for the temp. sender.





You can put a hole in almost anything! Don't let this stop you. Get the pan and tap a new hole in as previously mentioned, but only if you plan on towing a lot and all of the time.



The extra 4 quarts of fluid help a tremendous amount ! Perhaps the fin design on the bottom of the pan and the pan thickness helps alot too.



I'm running mine (Mag-hytec) with a temp prob and have yet to see anything above 180 degrees - that's towing at GVW, summertime, over South Pass Wyoming (and the pass is dead in the middle of the 6 hours trek).



I'm glad I have a temp probe because now I know how hard I'm able to push things just to get to 180 and from this I don't think transmission temps will EVER be a concern. I drive my truck solely off of the EGT gauge. I was pushing things pretty dang hard (at max EGT) and it never rose above 180.



If you order now, you could have your signif. other wrap it for you and put it under the tree...

 

[BFC]

Originally posted by BFC

Does it fit on a 47re?



Glenn

well I answered my own question, I called B&M. Nope it won't do for a 47RE. Thought I let you guys know.



Glenn

 

[BillGotthelf]

I beg to differ the B&M pan does fit on a 73RE- My 96 has one on and it works perfect.

 

[BFC]

I'll take your word for it, I'm just going by what the tech at B&M said. Are you saying that I could put one on my 98 with the 47RE?



Glenn

 

[BillGotthelf]

The pan on my 96 and my 99 are the same except that dodge made the 99 and up pan deeper to hold more fluid. That is why the standard depth pan that Geno's sells has a disclaimer and they offer a double deep pan.

 

[Dennis Koenig]

Thanks everyone out there for your help on Trans Pan Advice! This was my first posting for input.



The B&M pan came today and the trans shop I patronize said it should work with the shorter spacer supplied, (long spacer is for 727). I'll find out in a couple of days.....



Somewhere in the search of the Accessories Forum, there was a comment about the B&M spacer not working properly?



I purchased the pan for $139. 99 at AutoZone Auto Parts. They were recommended by B&M for the best price.

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'95 Dodge 4x4 auto stock w/4" cat. back exhaust, 110k miles

 

[rlittle]

I have a 96 with auto and from what I understand the PML pan will fit any of the Dodge Diesel engines. Mine bolted right up with no problems. Has a drain hole with magnetic plug and sensor hole. The thing is very heavy Cast Aluminum and the machine work is absolutely first class. They were very helpful when I called them (about six months ago) but I do not have their number anymore. They are on the Net under PML or search under Transmission Pans, that is where I found them.

Rollie

 

[Ram4Sam]

PML brand is here...

Rlittle, PML's website is www.yourcovers.com



They also have pan's for other applications and rear covers also. While I haven't seen his stuff, the prices are much less than MH.



I talked to the owner a couple of months ago about making a cast finned valve cover for the 24V. He seemed pretty interested and I sent him some photos of a stock cover as he was unfamiliar with it, and offered him my stock cover to help with R&D. I haven't heard anything back from him yet.



Sam