Turbo #3

[DunnC]

My truck go's in the shop tomorrow with a p2262 code. #@$%! The last time I had this code dodge replaced the turbo at 16,000 miles now I have 22,500 miles on the clock and maybe my 3rd turbo. Has anyone else had this problem or have any input on this?

 

[sag2]

Do you know what software level your ECM is at? You need the latest software and then the dealer needs to perform TSB 11-003-07. Also what is your idle time and duty cycle? Do you run it hard or just run around town? Do you run with the EB on most of the time?

 

[DunnC]

Do you know what software level your ECM is at? You need the latest software and then the dealer needs to perform TSB 11-003-07. Also what is your idle time and duty cycle? Do you run it hard or just run around town? Do you run with the EB on most of the time?

I think I have the AU flash they did that when they did the G30 recall. My truck did idle a good bit before they replaced the turbo but I have kept it to a min sense then and I only use the EB when towing or on the hwy. I do a lot of mixed driving but I do run it hard and when I tow it's always over 10k and sometimes 18 to 20k when I move my loaders. Hope this helps.

 

[sag2]

This latest flash AX is really supposed to clean things up. It would be nice if they came up with a turbo cleaning procedure so they don't have to replace a $4000 turbo for some soot.

 

[Dan Simmonds]

I don't know if this would be called a turbo cleaning procedure per-se, but during the last visit to my dealer, it was explained to me that DC had given instructions to dealers about a new procedure following a dealer-performed oil change. The dealer proceeded to explain to me (since I change my own oil) that DC has instructed the dealer to basically idle the 6. 7 at moderate to high RPM's for a short time following an oil change. And as it was explained to me, this procedure was necessary to clean soot out of the system.

 

[Bob4x4]

I don't know if this would be called a turbo cleaning procedure per-se, but during the last visit to my dealer, it was explained to me that DC had given instructions to dealers about a new procedure following a dealer-performed oil change. The dealer proceeded to explain to me (since I change my own oil) that DC has instructed the dealer to basically idle the 6. 7 at moderate to high RPM's for a short time following an oil change. And as it was explained to me, this procedure was necessary to clean soot out of the system.

:-laf Dealer induced propaganda... ... .....



Bob

 

[DunnC]

I have never had a problem with the egr or dpf just the turbo p2262 so I don't know if the new flash will help or not. I have changed dealers so i am hoping to get a little better serv.

 

[grasmo]

Man what a coincedence I am going in tomorrow to get a new turbo on mine too! My lemon law aaty. told me to go ahead and let them try to fix it that it would not foul up the lamon law process and even if the truck is successfully repaired I would still be eligible to lemon law the truck. Sounds too good to be true. But I am driving around in a truck that is running really weak w/ no exhaust brake and the soot is so thick in the tailpipe it is ridiculous. I'm sure it probably does need a turbo ... along with a bunch of other stuff that will show up sooner or later. People that are against us straight piping our trucks ... . this is why we wind up doing it... . Because they just run happier. Reduce emissions by taking people off the road that should not be driving... . I have a simple list ..... People on welfare that are buying liquor and /or lottery tickets.

 

[DunnC]

I hear you. When I get mine back, I am adding the BADP 5'' kit and blocking the EGR I am tired of the dodge BS, 10MPG and I think this is the only way these trucks will ever see 200k to 300k like my past 5. 9L trucks did. I don't understand how the EPA thinks, 30% more fuel =cleaner air. SOMEONE IS MAKING A TON OF MONEY OFF THIS AT $3. 50 PER GAL.

 

[grasmo]

What is the BADP? Any info on blocking the EGR?Have you read some of my troubles?

 

[DunnC]

BAY AREA DIESEL PERFORMANCE makes a really nice DPF delete kit. I like it little better than the H&S kit. As for the EGR block off Google that and you will find pics. and details on how to do that.

 

[Jeepstang]

30%

I hear you. When I get mine back, I am adding the BADP 5'' kit and blocking the EGR I am tired of the dodge BS, 10MPG and I think this is the only way these trucks will ever see 200k to 300k like my past 5. 9L trucks did. I don't understand how the EPA thinks, 30% more fuel =cleaner air. SOMEONE IS MAKING A TON OF MONEY OFF THIS AT $3. 50 PER GAL.

Diesel engines in general run about 30% more efficient than a gas engine

however I read somewhere that the new gas engines coming out are going to be direct injection or common rail somehting to that effect which will make them have more power and better fuel mpg. My last Diesel truck which was a GM Suburban 6. 5TD had 300k on it and still got 23 mpg

i can't seem to get 300 miles per tank from full to empty unloaded on the new Dodge. Diesel here is closer to 3. 80 per gallon in my area and some are 3. 45 30 miles from here.

 

[Bob4x4]

The gassers have been common rail for years,direct injection is around the corner.

Dodge's green cars will be diesel... ... ... ... it should be interesting if many of them will work well.



Bob

 

[grasmo]

Well ... Picked up my truck from Roy Campbell Dodge. Their mechanic was very nice and explained the repair to me and after installing the new turbo, my truck was extremely responsive and the exhaust brake worked very well. No check engine light and... ... 21. 6 mpg on the overhead ... . I have never been any where near those numbers. I know, I know Don't get all excited because it probably won't last but I drove approx. 30 miles and the cel did not come on. That is a first. I tell you ... Cass Burch The owner of the( Cass Burch dealership in Quitman Ga. ) could take some lessons from these people on how to treat a customer. Someday he will meet the right person that has nothing to lose. Mechanic went home with a $ 10. 00 tip. I,ll keep you posted ,

 

[HLewallen]

I am getting ready to pick up my truck tomorrow, after dropping it off with P2262 again. I have had my turbo replaced twice. The service advisor (in his limited knowledge) says there was a software update applied (must be recent, as the last turbo was two months ago) and that the truck now passes whatever test they use on the actuator, so no new turbo this time. Of course, my truck only has 8k miles on it. I could still get more turbos before 22. 5 k miles.



Does anyone know what the new SW changes actually are? Are they specific to EGR operation?



Last time I was there the diesel tech also said Dodge was working on some sort of plate/window for the turbo that could be removed to allow cleaning of the actuator/shaft.



And just a tech note - the 240 hp turbocharged Saturn Sky already uses direct injection, and gets 2 mpg better than the 170 mpg base model without direct injection or turbo. According to one review, anyway.

 

[Bob4x4]

I am getting ready to pick up my truck tomorrow, after dropping it off with P2262 again. I have had my turbo replaced twice. The service advisor (in his limited knowledge) says there was a software update applied (must be recent, as the last turbo was two months ago) and that the truck now passes whatever test they use on the actuator, so no new turbo this time. Of course, my truck only has 8k miles on it. I could still get more turbos before 22. 5 k miles.



Does anyone know what the new SW changes actually are? Are they specific to EGR operation?



Last time I was there the diesel tech also said Dodge was working on some sort of plate/window for the turbo that could be removed to allow cleaning of the actuator/shaft.



And just a tech note - the 240 hp turbocharged Saturn Sky already uses direct injection, and gets 2 mpg better than the 170 mpg base model without direct injection or turbo. According to one review, anyway.

The turbo can come apart now to be cleaned... ... . the issue is if it is taken apart Holset will not honor the warranty on it,so Dodge is stuck in the middle of this.



Bob

 

[HLewallen]

Got to talk to the diesel tech when I picked it up - dispite the fact that my truck is throwing P2262 fairly regularly, he maintains my turbo was clean on the inside. They didn't even attempt to clean it. They took it apart, put it back together, could not pass test, realigned by hand, got it to pass the test, and then handed it back to me. They did upgrade the SW to AX, but they said that AX just improves EGR operation for less soot, and my turbo is clean already?



The tech basically said "Yep, doesn't make sense. Here are your keys. "

 

[Jeepstang]

As I understand it the actuator will cycle after 2 minutes or so of driving. so frequent short trips are a good thing. the only code I ever had was for the system not sensing the turbo boost which I think is a p2262 and this was after a long highway drive from MA to MD. 99% of my driving now is taking my kid 1 mile away and picking him up from daycare which is about 2 minutes each way. I have not had that code come back since the summer time. This info was given by the Star tech support people to the tech who worked on my truck. They said they should be adding cycles of the turbo actuator to the flash that was about to come out which was in July or Aug I think. So I dont know if that was ever addressed or not. I would try it and see if it helps to clean out the passage in the actuator that gets contaminated with soot. Good luck!

 

[grasmo]

Reminds me of the days when I use to wrench on 2 stroke bikes equipped with power valves ... always carboned up ..... always cleaning the things and re-assembling with molybdenum disulfide grease... . only thing that would stand up to the heat... eventually discvered Amsoil series 2000 racing 2 stroke it would not produce carbon deposits.

 

[Bob4x4]

Another tip is to always enable the exhaust brake it will keep the tubo more active.



Bob