Turbo oil return line troubles

[SGlock]

Need some help on an oops...

My son changed out the turbo on his 5. 9l, accidentally crimped the 04. 5 flexible turbo oil return line, so went to the dealer to get a new line. They sold him the older, multi-section return line. While seating the return tube in the block, the very end section (with o-ring) of the return line separated and went into the block/oil pan. We drained the oil, used magnets to try to locate the piece, fished around with a thin wire, etc. Can't locate the little sucker. Is the only option to drop the oil pan, remove the piece, and reassemble?

 

[SRadke]

You have that option, as well as the leave it in there option. Unless you can get it out through the drain plug. I'd first check to see if the piece you're searching for in magnetic. It's stainless, it may not be.

Dropping the pan isn't a huge chore. It's a little difficult to get it all the way off/out, but you shouldn't have to. Just far enough to find your piece.

-Scott

 

[sag2]

If it is the 3931827 I know it is $30+ but I would just leave it there and buy another one. At the bottom of the pan it isn't going anywhere. When you buy the new one check it with a magnet and see if it isn't stainless, that may be why you can't get it with a magnet.

If your still worried about it and it does stick to a magnet, stick a large magnet to the bottom of the pan and leave it there to keep the piece inside from moving around. But if it were mine I wouldn't give it a second thought if it went in the pan.

Just another thought, did it stay on top of the oil scraper (windage tray)?

 

[SGlock]

Thanks for the input. I suggested we pull the pan, but my son is anxious to spool up that new turbo. Looks like a few hour job, requiring unbolting the left motor mount, jacking up the motor, and slipping the pan out.

 

[mwilson]

If this is part of the bottom connection (drain tube to block) I am having trouble understanding how it got down the hole, shouldn't it be a little larger than the hole in the block??? If not, what seals it??

I am looking at a 3931827 (Item # 9 in reference picture below) and it doesn't look like it could fall through.

Are you sure that you were sold the correct line???

Provide me your ESN if you want so that I can have a look in Cummins.



Did you buy this at Dodge or at a Cummins Dealer??



Maybe I am speaking out of turn, if so, I apologize. This does not sound right.



Mike.

 

[SRadke]

Thanks for the input. I suggested we pull the pan, but my son is anxious to spool up that new turbo. Looks like a few hour job, requiring unbolting the left motor mount, jacking up the motor, and slipping the pan out.

You won't get the pan out, but you can drop it far enough to find your piece. To get it out would require both motor mounts unbolted, the whole engine jacked up tight to the cowl and then the chassis lifted slightly to let the front axle droop about 3".



You don't need to do all that, just drop the pan loose and fish out your piece.

 

[Shadrach]

I replaced 3931827 on my 03 when I rebuilt the engine as I replaced the block itself. I'm sure it wasn't stainless. Unless it broke into pieces it won't fit thru the hole in the block because it has a flange ( bulge ) in it to keep it from going in to far. I agree with Sag2 in post # 3. Mike : if they sold him the older style and he has an 04. 5 then the ESN will show the flex tube like his original. Shadrach

 

[mwilson]

I replaced 3931827 on my 03 when I rebuilt the engine as I replaced the block itself. I'm sure it wasn't stainless. Unless it broke into pieces it won't fit thru the hole in the block because it has a flange ( bulge ) in it to keep it from going in to far. I agree with Sag2 in post # 3. Mike : if they sold him the older style and he has an 04. 5 then the ESN will show the flex tube like his original. Shadrach

Yes, I realize that his ESN will show the new style flex line and I think that is what they had better go get no matter how soon they want to fire it up so they don't send another part into the pan.

I saw the bulge in the illustration of the adaptor and figured that is what seated it. Still can't figure out how they managed to do this even if it separated below the bulge as the o-ring should have kept it from dropping thru easily.



Just saying... ... .....



Mike.