Turbo Silencer Ring?

[DASH]

I guess I am blind, but can not find in the archives where it says how to remove the TSR? Can anyone help me with this on the details? I Love the sound, and if it was louder that would suit me just fine!!! Many Thanks! P. S. How loud is it, hehe?

 

[MACHINEST]

Pull the air intake hose off in the turbo inlet there is a snapring with plate inbehind it,this is what you need to remove,watch not to bend turbo fan.
good luck.

 

[RHARVEY]

Remove the flex hose from the front of the turbo that goes to the breather. Just inside the turbo, you will see a snap ring that looks like a piston ring(charcoal color), very gently with a small flat blade screw driver,lift one end of the ring out of the groove. Once you have got to this point, continue to lift the ring out of the groove. When the ring is out the TSR should fall right out of its location.
Here is what you will see>>>>

Ring In: http://www.qsl.net/n5cwm/ram031.jpg
Ring Out: http://www.qsl.net/n5cwm/ram042.jpg

Rick

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RICK
97 2500,CC,5 SPEED, 3. 54 Limited Slip,Psychotty System,K&N, ISSPRO 3" Pyrometer,Silencer Ring Removed
12,000 RBW 5th Wheel Hitch,25' Excel 5th Wheel,Rancho RSX17000 Shocks,Amsoil Dealer

[This message has been edited by RHARVEY (edited 11-06-2000). ]

 

[Michael Hughes]

What do you get from removing the TSR?

 

[RHARVEY]

A nice turbo whistle!!!! No other benefits execpt for the whistle...

Rick

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RICK
97 2500,CC,5 SPEED, 3. 54 Limited Slip,Psychotty System,K&N, ISSPRO 3" Pyrometer,Silencer Ring Removed
12,000 RBW 5th Wheel Hitch,25' Excel 5th Wheel,Rancho RSX17000 Shocks,Amsoil Dealer

 

[C Schomer]

Inlet design for a blower is very critical and these turbo inlets suck! I took out my ring so I could put in a good one. I took a piece of 4" round T6 and machined it with a two step taper inside. 30 degrees then 15 degrees, like doing multi-angle valve seats. I haven't towed yet but it sure is peppier around town! I can hear a loud rush of air at low rpms(14-1500) that I didn't hear before and when I let off the throttle to shift, it sounds just like a weed whip winding down. I mean WAY more than before!
Craig

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97 3/4Ton, 2WD, 5SP, #11 Plate, 14 Housing, AF942M Air filter, Gutted Cat, 4"From Turbo, Airlift, Shortened Frame, Custom Bed, HEY FORDBOY POWERSTROKE THIS!

 

[RHARVEY]

Craig
Once you have tested this invention of your. Would you be interested in making some for your fellow turbo whistlers????????Please... .

Rick

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RICK
97 2500,CC,5 SPEED, 3. 54 Limited Slip,Psychotty System,K&N, ISSPRO 3" Pyrometer,Silencer Ring Removed
12,000 RBW 5th Wheel Hitch,25' Excel 5th Wheel,Rancho RSX17000 Shocks,Amsoil Dealer

 

[C Schomer]

Making these things is a job for a bigger, better lathe - power feed on the tool post. It took 4 hrs. for mine. I was going crosseyed! Craig

 

[BigDaddy]

C Schomer,

Do you have any pics or dimension?
If you would be kind-enough we could
go to a local machine shop #ad



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[metal tech]

Craig, I had a similiar thought when I pulled my ring this weekend. Did the 4" stock fit snug or a bit loose. Did you cover the inlet (right infront of turbo blade) or drill to match it's OD. What dimensional tolerences did you use, being an aircraft machinist I tend to overdue things a bit. This sounds like a nice "training" project for our cnc lathe.

AL

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01~3500QC,4X,Sport-Silver,eth~dee,3. 54,Line-X

 

[C Schomer]

My trailer is winterized and I won't be in the hills again until next summer. The improvement in turbo lag is definately noticeable, much like the 4" exhaust did for it(or more). The ID going into the wheel is 2. 250" and the ID of the collar that the hose clamps on is 3. 375". It extends about . 5" ahead of the collar. It has to be that long to get the 30 degree angle. The hose goes on just fine over it. The part that is ahead of the collar is 4" dia. I bored the 2. 250 ID first, then the 3. 375 and one other step down(to clear the area of the old silencer ring) on the OD. Then the tedious hand fed 30 degree taper until there was about 1/4" of the 2. 250" ID left. I put a 15 degree taper on the last little bit. It goes 30 degrees for about 2", then 15 for 1/4" then straight into the wheel. It fit snug in the collar and I thought it would stay put there, but it got blown out and turned crosswise(from the pressure pushing back when quickly letting off the throttle). That's what I get for thinking! I took the compressor housing off and drilled and tapped 3 hole around the collar and put in set screws to hold it. I'd whittle down a fence post if I had to! I never heard it suck so much air at low rpm like it does now. I could borrow a digital camera from work but I don't know how to get pictures on a post. If someone would e-mail me with instructions, I'd get them on. Craig

 

[JGK]

Oh, Craig, you've started it now... and you're the point man.

Watch this one go!

But when it gets refined, I'm interested!!!

JGK

 

[pcorssmit]

Craig, please keep us posted as to this modification -- sounds interesting.

Pete

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'97 2500 CC 4X4 5spd Sport
'83 K5 Blazer 350 TBI (ex 6. 2), 39. 5 TSLs, 3" lift, Dana 60/GM 14 blt, Detroits

 

[johnhunt]

Craig,

How did you design your inlet? What parameters are important? What are you trying to achieve with the geometry you chose?

-John-

 

[KWIKKURT]

Originally posted by C Schomer:
I could borrow a digital camera from work but I don't know how to get pictures on a post. If someone would e-mail me with instructions, I'd get them on. Craig

C Schoomer. . Just take a coulple of Pics of the ring and get them into any computer connected to the net. . Then E mail me and I will give you detailed directions on how to upload them so everyone can get at them... If you have a choice with the camera save the files as JPEG... KwikKurt


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"Have you driven OVER a phord lately"
2001 2500 BRT WHT SPORT QUADCAB 4X4 ETH 3. 54LSD TRLR CMPR PKG ALL OPT XCPT LTHR

 

[RANDUCCI]

I also made a replacement for my TSR, only I made a nice smooth bell curve just like a velocity stack. It transitions from the outer diameter then to match the inner diameter and polished it. It fits very tight, only . 003 gap where it meets the hole into the fan. I made it out of 4" dia. 6061 T6 bar stock. My truck is new but being an ex-road racer I can't leave anything alone.

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2001. 5 2500, QCAB, LB, K&N, WHITE/SILVER

 

[metal tech]

Craig, thanks for the dimensions. I was wondering how you'd held the new part in place, nice choice on set screws. It seems I've got yet another "training" project to do #ad


AL

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01~3500QC,4X,Sport-Silver,eth~dee,3. 54,Line-X

 

[C Schomer]

John, a blower inlet is critical because the air increases velocity so much there. Using some tables I figure our engines at 300 hp require about 600 cfm at around 2900 rpm. Using a pocket dust collection calculator, 600 cfm in a 4" round duct is moving at 4600 fpm and increases to 14500 fpm when it reduces to 2 1/4" at the wheel. A GOOD transition is important. I thought about making it like a velocity stack but with the rubber hose I think any decent transition would be a big help. Better radiusing at the ends might help but I chose not to make the project too long. Ideally there should be 5 times the duct diameter(20") in straight lenght ahead of the blower and the transition would be 15 degrees per side. Most sheet metal shops build 30 degree transitions so I settled for that.
Randucci, have you noticed the difference? More air and less smoke at low rpm(and more low end tq. ) and the weed whip sound when shifting? I'll work on the pictures as soon as I can! Craig

 

[johnhunt]

Craig,

I don't think very well in FPM, so I converted your numbers to MPH.

4600 FPM = 52. 3 MPH
14500 FPM = 164. 8 MPH!

Yeah, I can see that a transition is important. Thanks for calculating and publishing the numbers on this.

-John-

 

[RANDUCCI]

I can't really say that I noticed much difference because I made and installed it after about the first week that I had the truck, so I didn't really have a baseline to go by. It was just something that looked like it should be improved upon. I also installed a K&N RE0880 filter, but the turbo noise was too great, so I fabricated my own 7. 0" dia. aluminum tube housing to reduce the noise which has worked quite well, it also shields the filter from any water that might splash up inside the engine compartment. My point would be that I haven't noticed any sound difference due to my air horn on the inlet of the turbo.

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2001. 5 2500, QCAB, LB, K&N, WHITE/SILVER