Ulsd?

[EWhite]

This morning i stopped in at the local truck stop to put some fuel in my 04. 5

To my surprise while it was fueling, there was a sign that said ''This pump dispenses ULSD fuel--standard for 2007 diesel vechicles and recommended for all diesels. '' I know that this is a bunch of EPA crap, but what i want to know is should i put an additive in and if so--what? I don't want to deprive my pump of its needed lubrication. Thanks in advance for any opinions.

 

[DPKetchum]

From what little I have read the lubes are in the fuel already. There NOT going to sell a fuel that will ruin equipment.

 

[Regcabguy]

From what little I have read the lubes are in the fuel already. There NOT going to sell a fuel that will ruin equipment.

I think here in Ca,weve been running on "reduced sulfer" fuel for quite sometime now. ULSD will be next. Marco posted that in Italy he's been running his CTD for years on it with no V. P. problems other than the norm.

 

[Gary - K7GLD]

From what little I have read the lubes are in the fuel already. There NOT going to sell a fuel that will ruin equipment.

AH - you mean like the reformulated gas they came out with in early '90 - that the EPA clearlly and publicly said they KNEW would cause engine damage - but they didn't CARE, as long as it would clear the air? Yeah, the same stuff that damaged the fuel lines on the '85 vette I sold my sister in law, and cost her nearly $2000 to repair/replace?



OR, maybe the first round of low sulphur diesel that sidelined MANY diesels with damaged fuel systems and leaking lines and seals?



NAHHHhhhh - the EPA and the oil companies would NEVER put stuff on the market that might cause engine damage... .

 

[p-Bar]

I think here in Ca,weve been running on "reduced sulfer" fuel for quite sometime now. ULSD will be next. Marco posted that in Italy he's been running his CTD for years on it with no V. P. problems other than the norm.

The EU has been very strict with the diesel fuel , making sure it has the proper lubricity. We need to be taking their lead, they also have stricter standards on electronic devices and their Hi-def format is better too... .

 

[SKargo]

AH - you mean like the reformulated gas they came out with in early '90 - that the EPA clearlly and publicly said they KNEW would cause engine damage - but they didn't CARE, as long as it would clear the air? Yeah, the same stuff that damaged the fuel lines on the '85 vette I sold my sister in law, and cost her nearly $2000 to repair/replace?



OR, maybe the first round of low sulphur diesel that sidelined MANY diesels with damaged fuel systems and leaking lines and seals?



NAHHHhhhh - the EPA and the oil companies would NEVER put stuff on the market that might cause engine damage... .

Seriously, will you keep your tinfoil hat wearing, paranoid ramblings to yourself?

Thank you.

 

[grfraz]

I don't know if we should use an additive or not, but I have started putting a quart of the Amsoil Saber Professional Synthetic 100:1 Pre-Mix 2-Cycle Oil every time I fill up. I filled up yesterday for the fifth time since I started using the two cycle oil and I have seen an average of 1. 5 mpg increase in my mileage. I haven't done anything to the truck lately.

Someone please explain that, because it has me baffled. I am not going to add any to the next tank just see if the increase is still there.

 

[MRaynor]

He is very correct in every way. I still remember the warning that came out about particular fuels eating fuel lines. I also have gotten some of this garbage in my truck and it ran like crap until it was fully out of the system. I am sure you won't ridicule when you get hold of some of this stuff. And how do you know his hat is made of tinfoil, maybe it is made of newspaper?

Seriously, will you keep your tinfoil hat wearing, paranoid ramblings to yourself?

Thank you.

 

[Gary - K7GLD]

He is very correct in every way. I still remember the warning that came out about particular fuels eating fuel lines. I also have gotten some of this garbage in my truck and it ran like crap until it was fully out of the system. I am sure you won't ridicule when you get hold of some of this stuff. And how do you know his hat is made of tinfoil, maybe it is made of newspaper?

What isn't obvious here, is that what you have just witnessed and commented upon, is one of my more vocal critics, who delights in following some of my posts purely for the "fun" of creating disruption - which is also why he now resides in the depths of my "ignore" bin with the dozen or so like him who share his affliction. The only time I see their abusive ravings, is when they get quoted by another member, as was done here.



Other members have also commented on these guys activities - but strangely, the moderators never seem to catch on to what's happening, or why - let alone try to put a stop to it - meanwhile, I just continue to ignore them...

 

[RustyJC]

Take a look HERE. :{



On edit - I just noticed that this thread is in the 3rd generation forum. It appears this problem may just reach up and grab us 2nd generation (VP44) folks upon a re-read of the bulletin.



Rusty

 

[Pawpaw]

Take a look HERE. :{

Good info. Thanks!



Bob

 

[MCrossley]

SKargo are you one of the people who believes that fuel is reasonably priced also?



I agree with the others too many different things have proven to us especially those of us in CA that the EPA is in control and nobody really cares about what damage is caused. Anyone ever heard of NTBE you know that great stuff that cleaned up the air; that we paid a fortune more for fuel to have it added then they found out it was casing cancer, poluting waters and everything else for that matter and now e have to pay to keep it out which I still cannot figure out... .



I have run the ULSD out on a road trip and guess what it has less power and also a get this 2mpg less overall, great I get to pay for more fuel that gets me less miles and who knows what else it will do... got to love it!

 

[fkovalski]

Is ULSD going to replace LSD immediatly or will both formulations be available with the former being illegal to run in 2007 and up? (or will it be similar to leaded/ unleaded gas to which leaded was eventually phased out?)

 

[Prairie Dog]

What isn't obvious here, is that what you have just witnessed and commented upon, is one of my more vocal critics, who delights in following some of my posts purely for the "fun" of creating disruption - which is also why he now resides in the depths of my "ignore" bin with the dozen or so like him who share his affliction. The only time I see their abusive ravings, is when they get quoted by another member, as was done here.



Other members have also commented on these guys activities - but strangely, the moderators never seem to catch on to what's happening, or why - let alone try to put a stop to it - meanwhile, I just continue to ignore them...

If it helps any, your not alone.

There seems to be more of that on this forum these days and it's true the moderators need to address some peoples antagonistic attitude but for some reason they wont. I don't hang out here or endorse this site to new people like I used to because of it.



Scotty

 

[SKargo]

Take a look HERE. :{



On edit - I just noticed that this thread is in the 3rd generation forum. It appears this problem may just reach up and grab us 2nd generation (VP44) folks upon a re-read of the bulletin.



Rusty

All the more reason to replace the stock lift pump, which is a known weak point in the fuel system anyway.



Oh, and someone please tell gary to not flatter himself :-laf I MAY have directed a response to him 3 times EVER since being a member here. Some people have a very high opinion of themselves :-laf



I still think he's crying "the sky is falling. "

 

[SKargo]

If it helps any, your not alone.

There seems to be more of that on this forum these days and it's true the moderators need to address some peoples antagonistic attitude but for some reason they wont. I don't hang out here or endorse this site to new people like I used to because of it.



Scotty

That is a shame, because this place is FANTASTIC. Working at a dealership that sells mainly trucks, I do, and will continue to send them here. I mean, it is possible to ignore posts that aren't imperative to your internet well being.



Have a fantastic weekend.

 

[DJW]

Of the NTBE fiasco, I read that the Canadian firm that produced that product, sued when the contracted orders were canceled, so take it or not, whoever ordered it the product has to pay. Cost just passed on to the customers anyway. The WTO in time will equal WORLD GOVERNMENT, I read of this in New Zealend about 11 years ago, I believe that was when the WTO was being formulated, it claimed if a foreign firm was operating in another country and was not complying with the laws of that country, state or local ordances, the host country had NO POWER to intervene. So it means any tin pot country can come here and ignore our enviromental laws, and a host of others with impunity. That is why the so called KOOKS demonstrate against it. I believe the most of them were collage educated and understood those matters. NTBE is a prime example, at least some of the people, Californians have been informed, as they will pay for it for years. Read the Financial Pages, the only Truth in daily newspapers.

 

[MCrossley]

Yep we pay and we pay and we pay I am all for the enviroment but it is time to get the extreme enviromentalist out of office just think in so many cases we pay them with our tax dollars to charge us more money and make life more complicated... With CA turning into mexico and all of the new laws that are being introduced it is all yet another reason to leave this state, if anyone needs a eye opener just go visit Berkley sometime...

Of the NTBE fiasco, I read that the Canadian firm that produced that product, sued when the contracted orders were canceled, so take it or not, whoever ordered it the product has to pay. Cost just passed on to the customers anyway. The WTO in time will equal WORLD GOVERNMENT, I read of this in New Zealend about 11 years ago, I believe that was when the WTO was being formulated, it claimed if a foreign firm was operating in another country and was not complying with the laws of that country, state or local ordances, the host country had NO POWER to intervene. So it means any tin pot country can come here and ignore our enviromental laws, and a host of others with impunity. That is why the so called KOOKS demonstrate against it. I believe the most of them were collage educated and understood those matters. NTBE is a prime example, at least some of the people, Californians have been informed, as they will pay for it for years. Read the Financial Pages, the only Truth in daily newspapers.

 

[rbattelle]

There NOT going to sell a fuel that will ruin equipment.

Last week's Automotive News had a small comment about oil companies petitioning the EPA for an extension to the October 15 deadline because they're "concerned about the quality of fuel that will be available shortly after the October 15 deadline". That sort of worries me.



-Ryan

 

[jjdiesel]

Last week's Automotive News had a small comment about oil companies petitioning the EPA for an extension to the October 15 deadline because they're "concerned about the quality of fuel that will be available shortly after the October 15 deadline". That sort of worries me.



-Ryan

Need that 2 micron fuel filter baby... . I'd like to get one going before this stuff is in full flow everywhere.