Vegas Dyno numbers

[Bob Wagner]

Hey... Did anyone show up? Come on Post those
numbers. Did anyone break 400 HP?

 

[rich m]

Joe should have all the data, but Axekicker's bone-stock y2k had a solid 195 w/a 200 peak... Now he has a baseline to measure from... Mine had a solid 240, with a 250 peak... didn't get to stay later, so missed HVAC (WICKED TRUCKONIFIED!) and Joe D. when they ran theirs... I think (MHO) Nowell's red rocket breaks 300 just sitting there, not running!... need to re-visit that mathematical formula to get torque numbers. the dyno's computer gave HP #'s only... rm

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BOMBed 98. 4 1B7KF23D4WJxxxxxx-- BD's #5 plate and x-honed injectors--BD Brake and the associated transmission bomb goodies (except for TC,currently). . many homemade non-power accessories, 4" open exhaust(short)... big hole and old Scotty Air system(will eventually get Psychotty cannon, I suspect) camper shell, Warn front receiver, G159Unisteels on Rickson 19. 5's. . CD player is bone stock, so are the seats. PrimeLoc, also remote spin-on filter for the auto trans... Pyro Boost and Trans temp from Isspro,
Westin nerf rails(black),
bent welding rod to hang celphone on dashboard...

 

[BHORNER]

HVAC ran 595 hp. Would have been over 600 at sea level.

On my stock ETH I gained near 80hp with the EZ Box. I'll post more detail later.

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Barry Horner
Lake Forest
Orange County, Ca

2001, SLT+, ETH, 6 speed, White quad cab, short bed, Sport, 2wd , 3:54 anti spin, Camper Special with trailer tow, 16x8 Forged Aluminum with 265x75 tires, Fog lights, Audio controls steering wheel mounted, AM/FM cassette with CD, Travel Convenience group, Keyless entry with remote, Leather agate heated seats. Line-X bed liner. ARE LS 2 tonneau cover. Pillar mount boost and EGT. EDGE EZ and soon to come McLeod clutch.

[This message has been edited by BHORNERIS (edited 11-19-2000). ]

 

[HVAC]

See my post on the fuel line upgrade topic-
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Well, just got back Lotta driving today, bout 10 hours including the burger/bathroom breaks.

On the otherhand, although I will need Dr. Donnelly to explain what happened, my new fuel system showed results on the dyno!! I'm rather STOKED about that. This may be as simple as the age old axiom-fuel = power. I will need to back up the results on another dyno, but I am now running at 400(was 350) hp in street trim, 500(was 450) with the propane, and 600(was 550) with the Power
Edge on. Please note that we achieved 586. 1 hp without the Nos! This is about 36 hp over my previous best, short of the Nos(new solonoid isn't hooked up). Could this be due to the improved fuel supply???? I get 50 ponies from the Nos so this means that an ISB engine(with the Nos operable) has entered the
stratosphere(over 600 hp) @ 636 horsepower!!!

You twin dozen valvers out there stand tall. We don't take a performance back seat anymore. Can I get an AMEN!!
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Guess we shattered 400 hp Bob! #ad


I have to acknowledge RichM's exhaust which I did not check out closely. All I can say is that I NEED to check it out closely. From a distance it looked and sounded BOMBed! #ad

 

[rich m]

Originally posted by HVAC:
See my post on the fuel line upgrade topic-

Howdy, Nowell. Glad to see you made it back to your "home station"---my exhaust is just a simple BD 4" downtube, followed by 4" straight-stock, then a mandrel-bent 4" 45* elbow. that immediately goes to a 4"-5" reducer, and emptys out thru a 5"dia stainless "stinger" with a 45* "baloney" cut. system's a "shorty" like yours, exiting forward of the rear wheel. Makes room for my "proper sized" spare in the stock location and leaves no room (yeah,right) for a "cat" or muffler... Yours is a vicious-looking system, without a doubt---rm

 

[BHORNER]

As everyone knows that went to Los Wages the dyno was only measuring speed and HP. Here are a few formulas that may help.


HP/Torque
        hp = rpm x torque/
              5252
        torque = 5252 x hp/
                rpm



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Barry Horner
Lake Forest
Orange County, Ca

2001, SLT+, ETH, 6 speed, White quad cab, short bed, Sport, 2wd , 3:54 anti spin, Camper Special with trailer tow, 16x8 Forged Aluminum with 265x75 tires, Fog lights, Audio controls steering wheel mounted, AM/FM cassette with CD, Travel Convenience group, Keyless entry with remote, Leather agate heated seats. Line-X bed liner. ARE LS 2 tonneau cover. Pillar mount boost and EGT. EDGE EZ and soon to come McLeod clutch.

 

[Charles Wheeler]

This was a great event. Alot of people, alot of time, and ALOT of horse power. On two runs I avraged a 208hp, with a high of 213hp. This is with a stock 2001 ETH 3500. I also calculated my max tourqe as 469. 77 ft-lbs @ 2191rpm. If anyone is interested I typed up a excel spreadsheet to calculate the tourqe and RPM. If I can find some web space somewhere I'll put it up for download. Have to go to work, I'll post again latter.

Edit: Found signature was out of date.

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2K1 3500 4x4 SLT+ QC ETH/DEE, silencer ring AWOL, Isspro hour meter, Line-x liner, EGT, and boost gauges. Soon to come: BOMBing stuff

[This message has been edited by Charles Wheeler (edited 11-20-2000). ]

 

[BHORNER]

I had a lot of fun in Vegas and met many great people. As promised here are some of my numbers. My truck is bone stock except the Edge EZ.

Stock HP 211. 2

EZ Edge 247. 1

Stock Tq Max 468 2200 RPM

EZ Tq Max 627 1800 RPM

Largest HP increase 1800 RPM Stock 130 EZ 215


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Barry Horner
Lake Forest
Orange County, Ca

2001, SLT+, ETH, 6 speed, White quad cab, short bed, Sport, 2wd , 3:54 anti spin, Camper Special with trailer tow, 16x8 Forged Aluminum with 265x75 tires, Fog lights, Audio controls steering wheel mounted, AM/FM cassette with CD, Travel Convenience group, Keyless entry with remote, Leather agate heated seats. Line-X bed liner. ARE LS 2 tonneau cover. Pillar mount boost and EGT. EDGE EZ and soon to come McLeod clutch.

 

[rich m]

dawns on me that the max torques from our trusty I-6's happen in the mid-to high "teens". I wonder if the Dynojet machine could capture this reading properly if the transmission (auto or manual) was in "high-lock" at the lowest practical wheel speed, and then begin the reading. Hammer the "loud pedal" from there and we'd get a better range of operating speeds.

F'r instance... my graph was from 65-ish Mph up to 105, but nothing in the 35-65 range. In O/D,locked, (after much calculation, starting at axle-center height, which I refer to as "effective radius") I determined that each 100rpm (on mine with 3. 54's and the Ricksons) equals 3. 45mph. According to this my max torque should have been readable somewhere between 40 and 50mph, which was missed. (even with what I could read, I calculated my minimum torque at 450lbft, way up at 98mph/2800rpm) woo-hoo! As I go down the mph, and, therefore, down the rpms, my max observable torque was 568 at about 2200. WOO-HOO!! I still wonder where the real max is, but I bet it's 600+ (to the ground!!)

Is there a math formula to extrapolate the mystery numbers, or strictly by observation?

 

[HVAC]

For a quick calc use 2. 15 ft. lbs. of torque per hp. Me: 600 hp = 1280 ft lbs of torque #ad
Typical shopping cart math me boys! #ad

 

[RoryTek]

Had a great time meeting everyone. I got there at 7:55am and was wondering if I missread the calander, but I was right as soon as a few trucks rolled in. Left Victorville at 5:00am, not bad for a Saturday cruise. Well I wish I had a baseline for my truck, but my numbers came to 244hp @ 75mph this is a Calif. truck 180hp w/auto trans and 4:10 rears with 235 tires. The only mods I have are a #8 plate, Amsoil from stem to stern maybe good for a few hp. Hope to do this again after some more bombing sessions. Hope everyone had a great time, see you all @ Glen Thomas.

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Rory KE6NIG
97' 3500 CC 4x2
12V,TSTed, Auto, Bright
White/Spruce Int. Amsoil, Muffler fell off 20k ago, I think the CATS next.

 

[rich m]

Originally posted by HVAC:
For a quick calc use 2. 15 ft. lbs. of torque per hp. Me: 600 hp = 1280 ft lbs of torque #ad
Typical shopping cart math me boys! #ad

2. 15x240= 516?? seems a bit conservative, since I had a calculated 568lbft when I was 600rpm over the theoretical peak #ad

 

[HVAC]

My engine is rated @ 235 hp and 460 torque. These are flywheel numbers. The HO ETH is rated at 245 and 500 torque. Just an example of the relationship of HP ~ torque.

Our figures are theroretical in the absence of a rpm pick up on the dyno. Feel free to use whatever works for you.

 

[HVAC]

Speaking of conservative, do you fellows recall what the Doc "P" truck provided in the way of dyno results??? #ad

 

[HVAC]

Hey! Bob Wagner, did you start this topic???
Are you there??? #ad
10-4 out, cmon back #ad

 

[Bart Timothy]

I'd like to thank Joe D. for putting on this event as I had lots of fun meeting everyone and watching the trucks run. My ETH made 354 hp which I wasn't all that happy with, and Lance Groft's '94 auto made 343 hp which made him very satisfied. It was a shame about Mr Bob's truck and I hope he'll be on the road again soon. The Dr. P truck was very disappointing.

 

[Bob Wagner]

Yes, I am still here. Sounds like everyone had a great time! Was there a layer of haze in the air after the event?

 

[Cliffman]

Sounds like a great time. I would much rather have tried out my new clutch in Vegas with all you guys instead of the septo-plasti surgery (nose surgery) I had on Tuesday. Still in recovery and can barley sit in front of the puter #ad
. Hopefully I can make it to the long beach get-together. Haven’t driven my truck for 5 days know and I'm really jonesen man. The wife say's "you have a choice, either the pain pills or the truck" Damm!t, gimmy the pills woman #ad
. 400+ hp and pain pill don’t mix #ad


[This message has been edited by Cliffman (edited 11-25-2000). ]

 

[Cliffman]

BHORNERIS,

Maybe the pain pills are blurren my vision but its my understanding that the EZ adds 60 HP to the rear wheels. Your dyno readings reflect a 36 HP increase #ad
. It was great meeting you at Jim’s and I enjoyed our lunch together. Done any U-turns in the middle of intersections lately LOL.

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2001 Driftwood 3500 Quad Cab 4x4, Long Bed, 5. 9L HO Cummins Diesel (ETH), 6-Speed HD Manual (DEE) Loven the shift thing (Arrrrrh), 3:54, SLT+, 3. 54 Anti-Spin Axle, Camper Special Group, Trailer Tow Group, 18,000 LB 5th Wheel Hitch, Leather, Sliding Rear Window, BDs E-Brake, Rhino Liner (gray), Velvet ride shackles, cup smoothy, Power Edge box / EZ Box w/elbo, DD Stage III injectors, McLeod Dual Disk Clutch, K&N, SPA Gauges, Jardine Exhaust, 16cm turbo housing. Love the smell of diesel in the morning. Hope your watchen DC cuz every thing you see here is a big lie, Hehe.

[This message has been edited by Cliffman (edited 11-25-2000). ]

 

[BHORNER]

Cliff
Actually I had 85 hp increaqse at 1800 rpms.
130 vs 215. See my prior post for more info. I do need a little more U turn practice. You up for it? E-ail me about your McLeod. Mine is going in on the 29th.

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Barry Horner
Lake Forest
Orange County, Ca

2001, SLT+, ETH, 6 speed, White quad cab, short bed, Sport, 2wd , 3:54 anti spin, Camper Special with trailer tow, 16x8 Forged Aluminum with 265x75 tires, Fog lights, Audio controls steering wheel mounted, AM/FM cassette with CD, Travel Convenience group, Keyless entry with remote, Leather agate heated seats. Line-X bed liner. ARE LS 2 tonneau cover. Pillar mount boost and EGT. EDGE EZ and soon to come McLeod clutch.