Engine/Transmission (1998.5 - 2002) VP damage ?

[cwarner]

FASS just died on the way to work. Tried tapping it and it still didn't start , and I don't have any time or tools to work on it. I have 13 miles to drive home. Can /will the VP be damaged with driving it that far with no fuel pressure ?

 

[jwilliams3]

Try taking out the brushes and clean them up. This might help.

I wouldnt drive the truck with no fuel pressure.

 

[SpicyJam]

I don't really want to say either way, but here is what happen to me. Mine died in IL on my way to IRP. I drove mine with 0 psi all the way to Indy and fixed it there... ..... some 100+ miles to go... ... ..... I did not by any means see how fast I could go in our group if you get my drift..... , but all is well with the VP and no probs since. Guess it is your call... . but I don't want to be the one to tell ya it's OK. Later Jim.

 

[cwarner]

Had intermitent problems with the FASS a couple of weeks ago. Took out the brushes and cleaned them and everthing was fine until now. Unfortunatly I'm at work with no tools so I really don't have a choice but to drive it.

 

[cwarner]

Well,

just went out and tried to diagnose the problem. Found a bad fuse. Replaced and the FASS started but only ran about 10 minutes then popped another fuse. When it was running it had plenty of fuel pressure.

 

[Texas Diesel]

I'm sure glad I waited to see if the Fass would pan out. From what I read it is just a more expensive, short lived, electric LP.

 

[SpicyJam]

I'm sure glad I waited to see if the Fass would pan out. From what I read it is just a more expensive, short lived, electric LP.

Well I am not so sure about that, I have a 120000 miles on my FASS, and the part of it going south heading to IRP was my own fault. When I did the up grade that Brad sent me, I actually over tightened the motor and caused the pump gear to be too tight. All is fine now and going strong as ever.

 

[cwarner]

Where did you overtighten it ?

 

[cwarner]

I'm sure glad I waited to see if the Fass would pan out. From what I read it is just a more expensive, short lived, electric LP.

I don't quite agree with your statement. I think the FASS system does work and will last BUT I also think it has to have every part of the installation perfect or there will be issues. My problem so far seems to have been a corroded relay. Don't ask me how but there must have been enough corrosion to add resitance to the circuit causing the fuse to blow. It seems like little things like grounds, where your getting your main power, how your triggering the relay, how the plumbing of the fuel system is , etc. really effect the operation of the whole system. I've been watching this site about FASS failures and most of them are related to the installation.

Now as far as DPP's customer service goes..... well if and when you can talk to someone there it is great but they do rely on thier dealer network a little too much. It seems like much more could be learned about the system installation and failures by having a tech person thier building a database of facts. I'm not ready to give this system the boot yet .

 

[Texas Diesel]

Dont mean to rain on anyones parade but, the problems I have read here with the FASS are, continously blown fuses, corroded wires because the housing is not water proof, having to clean the brushes, frozen motors, POOR post sale support, and one other that I cant recall. Overall they seem to be failure prone, just like ANY electric lift pump.



And they are $$$$.

 

[jwilliams3]

Another thing to remember is numbers.

FASS has alot of units in the field, even on TDR they number in the hundreds.



Like anything else in life you only hear the bad.

Pickup a newspaper.



I like my FASS it does everything I want it to.

 

[R-N-R]

Well they are not bulletproof, but at least you can get parts for them unlike the Carter which requires replacement.

 

[SpicyJam]

Ya, know as a dealer for the FASS system, all of the problems I have read about seem to have been self inflicted... . such as mine for example. The units I have sold to customers I have not recieved any complaints about how thier's are working. On top of that any time there has been an update I am notified right away from Brad, and he keeps the older units updated with new findings from other dealers including myself. I am not going to tell people what fuel supply unit to purchase, that is for the customer to do, they need to figure what is best for thier needs. I will tell them however from experience is too let them know what they are getting for the money they spending on these units.

Geeze if that was the way people always thought about products, then why do people still buy 24v's with the ever famous VP, APPS non serviceabilty, factory lift pumps, etc... ? Those items can add up and cost alot more than a FASS.