I have ventured on to the TDI site a few times. They have a Jetta over there running in the 13's. It has European injectors some trick computer program by Wetterhauer, a complete different transmission, clutch and axles and propane injection. The owner has posted dyno numbers and track slips and pictures. The car was around 250/375 if I can remember right. That is a little less HP than a Stang and more TQ in a much lighter car. It is certainly not the norm... but either are most of our trucks. I can hang with any GT up to redline all day long from about a 40mph roll. I have beat dozens on the freeway... . it is a complete riot... . CJ