Walbro + Racor 2 micron filter installation

[JStieger]

Before Richard (TDR member Gypsyman) created Glacier Diesel Power I had already purchased a RACOR, Walbro pump, as well as an adjustable regulator. However, I was always struggling on where to mount these items. Then when GDP came along he started catering to the people who didn't want to buy the FASS etc and started selling fuel system parts separately or in its entirety, which is what I and others have always wanted!



So last night and this morning I took a break from my twins installation and finally installed my Walbro + Racor 2 micron filter/water separator. I also removed the stock filter and replaced it with a "filter eliminator" that Richard will be offering such that all the fuel return lines will remain in their same locations and be securely anchored as well.



I mounted the Walbro along the frame rail behind the rear wheel well liner to protect the pump. I had to add about 5-6 feet to the GDP relay harness to do this. Then I mounted a Racor 2 micron filter on a bracket I made right where a FASS system would normally go. The Racor is a bit shorter, but fatter than the Fleetguards so it is tucked up a bit more away from the ground.



I then tapped a hole on a blank boss on the Banks intake horn to mount the Aeromotive regulator (AEI-13301 with 20-60 psi spring - comes with 3-20 psi spring also). Then I mounted the regulator. The return from the regulator goes back to the fuel fill hose via the FASS pipe splice. The output from the regulator goes to the CP3. I then set the regulator to 22 psi at the CP3 inlet. The pump is quiet as a whisper! In fact, it is way quieter than the buzzing Holley Blue I removed.



I still need to find some of the same as stock water-in-fuel and fuel heater plugs so that I can extend the stock harnesses to the Racor, which has the heater and WIF plugs.



Some will question why I didn't keep the stock filter. Actually, I was hoping to keep the stock filter followed by a 2 micron filter, but couldn't find the room due to the huge engine mounted APPS. DC is going to 7 micron filters now and the FASS system can be used with 2 micron filters so I didn't believe I was hurting things by eliminating the stock filter.



Anyhow, here are some pictures of the installation. Just another option as to what you can do with GDP's parts and kits!

 

[Tomeygun]

Before Richard (TDR member Gypsyman) created Glacier Diesel Power I had already purchased a RACOR, Walbro pump, as well as an adjustable regulator. However, I was always struggling on where to mount these items. Then when GDP came along he started catering to the people who didn't want to buy the FASS etc and started selling fuel system parts separately or in its entirety, which is what I and others have always wanted!



So last night and this morning I took a break from my twins installation and finally installed my Walbro + Racor 2 micron filter/water separator. I also removed the stock filter and replaced it with a "filter eliminator" that Richard will be offering such that all the fuel return lines will remain in their same locations and be securely anchored as well.



I mounted the Walbro along the frame rail behind the rear wheel well liner to protect the pump. I had to add about 5-6 feet to the GDP relay harness to do this. Then I mounted a Racor 2 micron filter on a bracket I made right where a FASS system would normally go. The Racor is a bit shorter, but fatter than the Fleetguards so it is tucked up a bit more away from the ground.



I then tapped a hole on a blank boss on the Banks intake horn to mount the Aeromotive regulator (AEI-13301 with 20-60 psi spring - comes with 3-20 psi spring also). Then I mounted the regulator. The return from the regulator goes back to the fuel fill hose via the FASS pipe splice. The output from the regulator goes to the CP3. I then set the regulator to 22 psi at the CP3 inlet. The pump is quiet as a whisper! In fact, it is way quieter than the buzzing Holley Blue I removed.



I still need to find some of the same as stock water-in-fuel and fuel heater plugs so that I can extend the stock harnesses to the Racor, which has the heater and WIF plugs.



Some will question why I didn't keep the stock filter. Actually, I was hoping to keep the stock filter followed by a 2 micron filter, but couldn't find the room due to the huge engine mounted APPS. DC is going to 7 micron filters now and the FASS system can be used with 2 micron filters so I didn't believe I was hurting things by eliminating the stock filter.



Anyhow, here are some pictures of the installation. Just another option as to what you can do with GDP's parts and kits!

Awesome info!!



I just got my WALBRO pump on and WOW, it is quiet like a mouse.



I think the way you did it is great, with the regulator, That would be the one I want... Can you boost reference it?



That would be cool - like 1lb of boost ='s . 5 lbs of fuel pressure, etc...



I hate to see a great pump like the fass get beat, But if the grass really is greener... Well then who am I to complain?

 

[JStieger]

I think the way you did it is great, with the regulator, That would be the one I want... Can you boost reference it?



That would be cool - like 1lb of boost ='s . 5 lbs of fuel pressure, etc...

The regulator has another tap on it for a vacuum source. I guess that would work for boost too? I bought it from Summit Racing:



http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?autofilter=1&part=AEI-13301&N=400300+115&autoview=sku

 

[Tomeygun]

The regulator has another tap on it for a vacuum source. I guess that would work for boost too? I bought it from Summit Racing:



http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?autofilter=1&part=AEI-13301&N=400300+115&autoview=sku

Yes it can be used for boost referencing... But you will need a restrictor in the boost line ot make sure the regulator will not see more then like 20 psi.



If you do not you would get like 45psi (same as boost pressure) + 20psi (idle) ... way to high IMO



(BTW, I think thats how it works, I could be wrong)

 

[nickleinonen]

Yes it can be used for boost referencing... But you will need a restrictor in the boost line ot make sure the regulator will not see more then like 20 psi.



If you do not you would get like 45psi (same as boost pressure) + 20psi (idle) ... way to high IMO



(BTW, I think thats how it works, I could be wrong)

sounds about right if the regulator boost reference is 1:1. .



you can use a small regulator [home depot find... ] and a needle valve post regulator to bleed the signal down [like a boost elbow] to make it more like 0. 25:1 to 0. 5:1 and still limit it to a set max [regulator]



i've got my eye on the aeromotive #13204 [looks identical to the marine version which is compatable with diesel fuel]. . i want a solid 10psi idling and i want it to peak out at around 20psi under load for the moment [higher later when more mods are done]

 

[Jeff_K]

Here is a couple more pictures of the fuel filter eliminator that I installed last week (same one as JStieger installed). Richard is really coming through with some great ideas!!

 

[Tomeygun]

Here is a couple more pictures of the fuel filter eliminator that I installed last week (same one as JStieger installed). Richard is really coming through with some great ideas!!

One question:



How the does fuelline outlet line up with it now being on a horizontal plane and not a vertical plane? (the factory outlet pointing down)

 

[Turbo1Ton]

I could be mistaken but is that filter eliminator for the 2nd gens? Maybe they are a little different? That doesn't look like the factory cannister on my truck. And my valve is not yellow either.



Edit: Nevermind, I just pulled my head out and read his signature! Can't be a second gen!!!! Edit #2: Doh! Not to mention this is the 3rd gen forum! Crap I need some sleep I guess!



Jeff

 

[rbattelle]

What are the hoses made from in the GDP kit? And why eliminate the stock filter? I notice the Fleetguard 2-micron filters don't seem to have a water drain valve on them.



-Ryan

 

[Jeff_K]

When I installed my GFS-392 pump from Richard, I also built my own dual remote filter setup (pic attached) with a fuel/water separator and 2 micron spin on filters. Since I was totally bypassing the stock filter canister I wanted to pull the filter canister out because it served no purpose anymore, but the back of the filter canister casting is used to route all the return lines together. I talked to Richard about making me a eliminator and he said that he had a couple ideas already on the drawing board. The one I have is a beta unit, but it is pretty much perfect. I would think this would be a perfect product for all the FASS guys who don't use the stock filter either

 

[Joe Mc]

What about WIF sensor and heater?

When I installed my GFS-392 pump from Richard, I also built my own dual remote filter setup (pic attached) with a fuel/water separator and 2 micron spin on filters. Since I was totally bypassing the stock filter canister I wanted to pull the filter canister out because it served no purpose anymore, but the back of the filter canister casting is used to route all the return lines together. I talked to Richard about making me a eliminator and he said that he had a couple ideas already on the drawing board. The one I have is a beta unit, but it is pretty much perfect. I would think this would be a perfect product for all the FASS guys who don't use the stock filter either

Jeff-I recently installed a 392 system and a 2 micron filter also. I wanted to dump the stock filter too (frame mounted by tank from an earlier mod) but didn't want to loose the WIF sensor and heater. Did you adapt the WIF sensor & heater to the new filter mount? Please advise.

 

[Jeff_K]

Joe, I did not do anything with the heater and WIF sensor. I haven't had any issues with it so far. I just check the drain on the water separator every once in a while.

 

[GColeman]

What are the hoses made from in the GDP kit? And why eliminate the stock filter? I notice the Fleetguard 2-micron filters don't seem to have a water drain valve on them.



-Ryan

The install on mine was just finished yesterday. Very nice system. The kit did not include fuel line. We just picked up some good quality line from NAPA. Because of my apps, we could not mount under the intake manifold and had to go with the universal frame mount for the 2 micron filter. The Walbro pump was mounted on the inside of the frame rail just forward of the fuel tank. Eliminated the oem lift pump that was mounted on the side of the fuel filter and installed the adapter so that fuel runs from the LP, through the oem filter, (factory water drain still in place) then through the 2 micron filter mounted near the rear of the fuel tank and finally to the CP3. I know it sounds like a lot of fuel line but everything is well protected and secured to factory lines. The oem filter will get the big chunks and remote 2 micron will really clean things up.



A fuel pressure guage goes on next week and that will let me know when it's time for a filter change.



Great system and super quiet. You guys with 05-06 are lucky because your apps is not in the way. Super clean and easy install.

 

[Luken]

Great system and super quiet. Super clean and easy install.

I second that. Richard is putting out some great products.

 

[ENafziger]

Kindof off the subject, but has anyone figured out how to put a 2 micron kit on a truck with a jacob's exhaust brake? I tried last night, but the vacuum pump for the jake brake creates clearance issues with the cp3 injector line coming from the oem fuel filter. In fact, with the vacuum pump installed, there is barely enough room to remove the stock banjo bolt! Anyone tackled this yet?

 

[CBari]

Gcoleman Do You Think You Could Run Into Any Trouble With The Fuel Gelling In Cold Weather Between The Stock And The 2 Micron Filter With All Of That Hose.



I Only Ask Because I Am Looking At Doing The Same As What You Have Done, But I Wondered About The Gelling As I Have Had It Happen Before On My Truck

 

[nickleinonen]

Kindof off the subject, but has anyone figured out how to put a 2 micron kit on a truck with a jacob's exhaust brake? I tried last night, but the vacuum pump for the jake brake creates clearance issues with the cp3 injector line coming from the oem fuel filter. In fact, with the vacuum pump installed, there is barely enough room to remove the stock banjo bolt! Anyone tackled this yet?

remote mount it... glacier has that now [for the ones with the apps on the engine]

 

[ENafziger]

Even with the remote mount kit, you would still have to run a line to the cp3, right? The problem is that there isn't enough clearance to pull the cp3 inlet line and replace it with the fitting they supply in either the remote kit or the intake-mounted one.

 

[Gypsyman]

Even with the remote mount kit, you would still have to run a line to the cp3, right? The problem is that there isn't enough clearance to pull the cp3 inlet line and replace it with the fitting they supply in either the remote kit or the intake-mounted one.

Eric,



Sorry for the late reply but I just caught this thread. I was not aware of the clearance issue, however, I may have found a solution for you. I've located a 3/8" PushLok x 12mm Banjo fitting and I have a few of them headed my way. If they fit the Cummins banjo bolts I'll get one to you at no charge along with a high flow banjo to minimize the restriction at the pump inlet.



Give me a call when you get time.



Richard @ GDP

509-993-4923

 

[JStieger]

Gcoleman Do You Think You Could Run Into Any Trouble With The Fuel Gelling In Cold Weather Between The Stock And The 2 Micron Filter With All Of That Hose.



I Only Ask Because I Am Looking At Doing The Same As What You Have Done, But I Wondered About The Gelling As I Have Had It Happen Before On My Truck

If you get on DTR, cquestad (article by him about his truck feautured in latest issue of Diesel Power) did this install recently. I asked him the same question and he hasn't noticed any pressure drops due to the extra length of hose. It's still summer though!



Lots of folks run a 2 micron FASS system without a heater on the FASS in cold climates with reported no issues so I think it really depends on the fuel you get and if it is prepared accordingly to the climate.