Wanted: Banjo Bolts

[RobG]

I've been reading a lot of the posts about Lift Pump issues, and I've concluded that at this time, it's premature for me to spend $300 to upgrade my fuel lines.



I'm looking for a set of the modified banjo bolts, preferably cheaper than the $30-something that Geno's wants (talk about overpriced, sheesh). If anybody has a set or knows where I can get a set, please let me know!



Once these are in, if I still need more, I'll move the lift pump.



Thanks!



Rob

 

[pnwradar]

If you think they're overpriced, make your own set. Pull the five bolts out of your own truck and drill/chamfer them. I dunno about folks that spend $30k on a truck, $10k on stuff to add to it, and then fret over $30 more.



-jon-

 

[LSMITH]

Rob, I bought a set of Ray T's banjo's. The $30 price is more than fair. I know machining, and I know what machine time is worth. I can tell you that if Ray is making $1 and Geno's is making $1 per banjo I would be quite surprised. The quality is SUPERB!! My hat is off to Ray for doing this in the first place, I am sure he could use his machines for jobs that make more money but he chooses to help us out instead.



Your choices are to drill out the banjo's on the truck now, or cough for the bolts from Geno's.



This is not a flame, so please don't take it that way. This just happens to be an area that I know well, believe me the bolts are not overpriced. Hope this helps.

 

[RobG]

Okay, I'll order 'em from Geno's. I just remembered seeing a while back, somebody doing the bolts and selling 'em for around $20. I figured it was just Geno's typically overpriced stuff.



Also, at the time I called to check the price on 'em, I figured it was silly to spend $30 (figure $35 with shipping) on bolts I might end up having to replace if I needed to buy fuel lines, thus increasing the cost even higher (the lines thenselves will already cost around $315).



Thanks for the tips.



Rob

 

[JR2]

If you upgrade to other lines later I am sure the banjo bolts would have a good resale value. They are not someting that wears out.

 

[Phil Stuart]

Banjo bolts/Geno's garage

My hat is off to Geno's and Ray T's banjo bolts. Good quality parts and very competitive prices



Phil

 

[Briar Hopper]

I second that, thanks Ray, for doing this for us. I have your bolts installed, they were well worth the price. I'm blue collar, myself, I don't begrudge paying a master craftsman like Ray whatever he asks for his products. You're paying for knowledge, care, quality, material & labor, and overhead... .

As for Geno's, I fail to see how they're overpriced. Their Fleetguard fuel filters are $2-3 cheaper than I'd have to pay at Cummins. (and about $30 less than at the Dodge stealer parts counter! ) So my thanks to Geno's, too, for giving us a break on that, and many other items.

 

[JWhitcomb]

For me to set up my lathe and make a set of bolts I would have to be finished with them in a half hour to even think about making them myself while a paying job sat idle. Thirty bucks is a good deal, I could not make a set in less than two hours.

 

[Souders]

Banjo Bolts

I have read some on the replacement of the bolts. I have a 99 4x4 and want to find information on what I may expect from upgrading to the new bolts. How many need to be changed and what is the need to upgrade the fuel lines. Engine is stock, torque converter upgraded, also valve body Considering purchasing an Edge box to improve power.

Any input appreciated.

 

[Briar Hopper]

Better fuel flow, Souders, of course. You don't want to starve the VP44 injection pump, it depends on the diesel fuel for cooling and lubrication.

Ray T. 's banjo bolts have bigger holes in them, to flow more fuel, faster. Other people , mostly the ones with high HP, go whole hog, and replace all the stock fuel lines with bigger lines and fittings.

 

[Don M]

For thirty bucks you cant go wrong. That is cheap labor. I dont se how anyone could make 5 banjos for thirty bucks.

I sure could not.

Genos has always treated me fairly and I had no problems with the price of stuff from there. I have an exhaust blanket I erally like from Genos and at 99 bucks it was a steal. Last place I asked they wanted much more than that.



On the VP-44... what is making them fail with the stock lift or feed pumps? I really see alot of guys pulling their hair out over these injection pumps. Is the cart before the horse with fueling boxes and not dealing with the supply first? Sink time sounds important to me, to carry away heat. How hot do the internals get? Are they designed like an oil or lube pump? What parts are breaking? Is it from the fuel starvation talked about earlier or do the impellers go? What?

I want to now more about them.



Don~

 

[TxDieselKid]

Don, why do you care about us overvalved guys?

Don,

Do a search with Steve St. L as the poster. He has had many good posts about this topic. Just to start you off, look at this link from BlueChip Diesel. It has a very good ariticle on the VP dieing.



Oh how I long for the P7100



Andrew

 

[Don M]

Thanks Andrew I gotta know more about these things and what is going on in them.



Don~