Weight of 19 1/2" wheels - steel & Aluminum

[TomGolden]

Hi all,



I just checked Rickson's web site, and the costs seem to have diminished for their wheels at least a bit. The cost for the steel wheels is ~$270 / each, which brings these things way closer to my pocket book level of do-ability



I can't find the weight for each wheel listed on their web site though. I do NOT mean how much weight can each wheel support, I mean how much does each wheel itself weigh. I want to know if I should just keep saving the pennies until I can afford the aluminum wheels, or if the steel wheels are really not that much difference in weight to justify the need for aluminum wheels.



Also, if anyone can provide me any other convincing reasons why the steel wheels are really a bad choice here, that would be much appreciated as well.



Oh, and one more thing. I'll do more research on this myself, but I figured since I was on the topic anyway... Which would be the better choice: the 6. 75" or 7. 5" wide wheels? Ultimately, I want fairly agressive tires, and tall too, like in the 35 - 37" tall range. Maybe such tires in a 19 1/2" don't even exist...



Thanks,

Tom

 

[Vaughn MacKenzie]

What a timely post, I just got off the phone with Heather at Rickson and she said the aluminum wheels for SRW weigh around 35lbs ea. and 55 or so for the steel, so expect about a 20lb drop per wheel. Also the aluminum ones are about $400. They're forged and polished. She is emailing me some photos of them and I will post them soon! They don't have them on their website yet.



Vaughn

 

[jponder]

The tires you are talking about are heavy 285 to be 35 inches. They are over 100lbs. The percentage of change in weight will be small between total weight of the 285 on a steel or aluminum. The selection for a 19. 5 285 is ver limited. Their web sites show a number of tires in that size that are not available. If you are ultimately looking for tires bigger thna 35 inches you might want to go to a 22. 5 inch rim. I'll bet you will get alot better selection at that rim size

 

[TomGolden]

Vaughn - are you serious??? 35 pounds for a 19. 5" wheel that can hold 4000+ pounds I have never lifted one of my OEM 16" aluminum rims, but I would bet a good steak dinner they weigh more than 35 pounds. wow... That is quite incredible. But thank you so much for posting the weights for both the aluminum and steel wheels. 20 pound difference is basically negligible in my opinion, so for $200+ a wheel difference in price, the steel wheels sound pretty darn good.



I just went and browsed the Rickson site a little more, and yes, it seems to get a 35" tall tire, I would need the 285 series. However, of all the tires Rickson does list, in any size, the Michelin XD2, a 285 series tire, is my favorite in terms of tread pattern. Plus, it's an H rated tire and has tons of tread depth. But for $355 each but it is rated for 6175 pounds of load weighting



So that tire is basically a 19. 5" version of the OEM Michelin M/S tires I still have.

 

[BigUgly]

A 19. 5"X7. 5" Steel SRW with a Goodyear G124 265/70/19. 5 tipped my scales at a svelt 153 lbs.

Josiah

 

[jponder]

Originally posted by TomGolden

Vaughn - are you serious??? 35 pounds for a 19. 5" wheel that can hold 4000+ pounds I have never lifted one of my OEM 16" aluminum rims, but I would bet a good steak dinner they weigh more than 35 pounds. wow... That is quite incredible. But thank you so much for posting the weights for both the aluminum and steel wheels. 20 pound difference is basically negligible in my opinion, so for $200+ a wheel difference in price, the steel wheels sound pretty darn good.



I just went and browsed the Rickson site a little more, and yes, it seems to get a 35" tall tire, I would need the 285 series. However, of all the tires Rickson does list, in any size, the Michelin XD2, a 285 series tire, is my favorite in terms of tread pattern. Plus, it's an H rated tire and has tons of tread depth. But for $355 each but it is rated for 6175 pounds of load weighting



So that tire is basically a 19. 5" version of the OEM Michelin M/S tires I still have.

Tom I dont think ANY Michelins are available in that size. The web site shows them but they are not available. I dont think ANY Goodyears are avail, unless the new one that was coming has gone online. That is what I was trying to tell you is I got the Yokohama in a 285 and there were very few other tires available. I wanted the goodyear first, unavail, then said how bout michellins , unavail, . Dont look at that site and think those tires are avail because they are not, or I should say they were not when I ordered a couple of months ago. I payed $2600 dollars for my steel 285 yokos and the web site said they were 6175 rated but the tire says higher. Just call them and you can get the scoop as I dont think that site is kept up to date

So far as the weight of that tire on a steel wheel... ... ... . well 4 of'em made the back squat a little. I thought they were over $150 a peice but I didnt weigh them. I do know that the tire shop that put them on for the $9. 99 rotation charge was mad as heck. I gave the guy an extra 10 cause he could barely get them out the bed

 

[TomGolden]

Thanks for the clarification JP. I will definitely do more research at various actual tire vendor web sites rather than just Rickson to see what is available. By the way, I love your sig - "SPACE SHUTTLE" -

 

[jponder]

Originally posted by BigUgly

A 19. 5"X7. 5" Steel SRW with a Goodyear G124 265/70/19. 5 tipped my scales at a svelt 153 lbs.

Josiah

I didnt see your post before BU, your tire is discontinued I know and it was a goodyear. I was going to guess my tires were #165 a peice so I think that sounds right. They were too heavy for UPS. did yours come Ups?

 

[TomGolden]

NEW QUESTION

Ok, after looking through the Michelin web site for Truck Tires, they basically only have that one tire that is as tall as I want with a decently agressive tread - the XD2.



One thing I did notice that sort of startled me - these, and all the tires on the Michelin site are rated for a max of 75 MPH I'm hoping this means the tires are best kept under 75 (or whatever) MPH when they are on a big rig and hauling their max rated load. So if I have a set on my truck, it won't be any concern if I'm going well over 75 MPH Like when drag racing, lets say, or cruising down highway 5 at 80 - 85 MPH. I see a lot of big rigs that g a lot faster than 75 MPH...

 

[jponder]

Re: NEW QUESTION

Originally posted by TomGolden

Ok, after looking through the Michelin web site for Truck Tires, they basically only have that one tire that is as tall as I want with a decently agressive tread - the XD2.



One thing I did notice that sort of startled me - these, and all the tires on the Michelin site are rated for a max of 75 MPH I'm hoping this means the tires are best kept under 75 (or whatever) MPH when they are on a big rig and hauling their max rated load. So if I have a set on my truck, it won't be any concern if I'm going well over 75 MPH Like when drag racing, lets say, or cruising down highway 5 at 80 - 85 MPH. I see a lot of big rigs that g a lot faster than 75 MPH...

Thats right! all those big tires are like that. I have them on now and I can tell you I am not going to rip off any more 115 MPH when I get close to my exit back home in the woods. There is a 5 mile section that I havent seen a cop on in 30 years and I like to let it rip everyonce in awhile... ... . I guess it something I am going to give up. Think about the rotational energy of that tire that fast. I think I could drag race because I cant hit 85 MPH in the 1/4 anyhow. I think BU had some story about a guy with big tires that destroyed them at the track though. Get the tires Tom and then get over to the towing forum and lets start breaking down these fast drivers. Just think your rig will be rated at 25,600 lbs in tire capacity. so dont you think its time to slow down a little!

 

[TomGolden]

Darn



Well, I guess I could hang onto my OEM 16" wheels for some ocassional racing fun



I have gone to the Goodyear, Continental/General web sites, and they just don't have anything in the way of 19. 5" selections with anything other than highway tread tires, which isn't really all that surprising. :{ This isn't looking as good as I had hoped. Oh well. Can't have my cake and eat it too I guess.

 

[thekidfan]

Hey Tom, hope all is well, Goodyear makes the same tire that BU has the G124 in 285/70R19. 5 product code 756-419-774. I like that tire and think it's one of the most if not the most aggressive 19. 5 made. BTW Rickson MAY discount rims 10% and tires 3-4% with 4 or so sets ordered. Just something else to ponder. take care Jeff

 

[Extreme1]

Tom, the stock aluminum (and many aftermarket aluminum) wheels are cast aluminum, not forged. The mechanical properties of a cast material aren't near a forged material so they need to use a bunch more material and they get heavy, even for aluminum. My Dodge aluminum wheels (parts counter) are forged and were surprisingly light weight for the size.

 

[BigUgly]

JP;

Yes, my tires did come via Big Brown Truck. Mine are rated to 75MPH, I've had them up to 90 a few times, no explosions, but man, do they howl! I don't usually drive over 75 anyway, so it wasn't that much of a concern. I feel that with as little weight as these things carry on our trucks, the speed rating is mostly a CYA for the tire folks. I haven't heard of one blowing up, but I seen one guy race with them with 115psi in each, they had no give and bounced the truck around mightly well. I think propar pressures in these things are important, I used to run mine at 75/65 Front/Rear. The rode great and got good Milage, then on a whim, I aired them up to 85/75, I gained a good 0. 6 MPG and teh ride isn't much harsher.

I do like the tread of the Goodyear G124, it's a shame they stoped making it in any sizes, but I have hopes for the replacement that is coming out for it, it's supposed to have a similar tread pattern.

Hope this helps;

Josiah

 

[Vaughn MacKenzie]

WHEEL WEIGHT CORRECTION

I just got an update on the aluminum wheel weights from Rickson. Sorry about the previous incorrect information!



Eliminator: 27. 5 pounds

Classic round hole: 30 pounds



Vaughn