Well, I've had it!

[BigPapa]

I've had it with the fuel prices. #@$%!



I'm sure it's been talked about here before but I'd like to know if you fellas with experience can tell me what's the

1. BEST way
   
2. CHEAPEST way
   
3. EASIEST way
   

to make my own fuel.



I want to do it right, no Mickey Mouse stuff, but I don't want to spend money I don't have to. I have a friend who will buy a "processor" if I can supply him with fuel from it. I've also heard of the "Diesel Secret" (DSE???) and the WVO tanks that you start the truck on #2 and then throw a valve to burn the WVO. I know opinions are like arm pits, too, but I'll take them all.



Thanks for the help.



Scott

 

[blackfields57]

check out these sites.



Freedom Fuel America



Gasaholics Anonymous



Lovecraft Biofuels - Home



that should be some good reading for you. hope it helps.



the best way to get WVO, is to get a contract with a restaurant or burger joint to remove all their waste oil, that way you get it for free.

 

[JDiepstra]

check out these sites.



Freedom Fuel America



Gasaholics Anonymous



Lovecraft Biofuels - Home



that should be some good reading for you. hope it helps.



the best way to get WVO, is to get a contract with a restaurant or burger joint to remove all their waste oil, that way you get it for free.

Depending on where you live if you get a contract you will also probably need to get hauling licenses and insurance, among other things.

 

[cj hall]

wvo as a fuel

hello big papa



well I think we have all had it with fuel prices



you have three, no four ways of dealing with it.



1) make your own biodiesel before you do this get the cost of all your chemicals.

2) twin tank again get the cost of all the supplys needed to change the fueling system

3) blending fuel (dse or other) again get the cost of what you need to do to the truck if you want to run high amounts of this fuel in the cold winter months.



4) do what 95 % of americans do ( nothing thats what got us in to this)





the sticky post in this fourm is on what it takes to run DSE in a 3rd gen truck

the 2nd gens run even better and the 1st gens will I dont have one I cant tell you about them.



If you want to talk about running DSE you can email me at

-- email address removed --

I will answer your email and talk to you on the phone if you want about this.

email me for the phone number



thanks for reading and good luck

cj hall

 

[BigPapa]

Well lets see, I've got a 12V so it'll run pretty much anything. It's warm weather now so no worry about gelling for a few months. I see the "Fuel Meister" has also doubled in price since I looked at them less than 2 years ago.



Sooooo... ... ...



Tell me about my other options.



CJ, I'll email you when I get home.



Thanks!



Scott

 

[Vaughn MacKenzie]

Scott, basically find you a good source for used cooking oil, install a fuel heater that runs off the cooling system, and you're set to go for DSE. I bought the "recipe" for the DSE chemicals off CJ Hall and have been burning a lot of this fuel for some time. It does take some effort, but the nice thing is you don't have the byproduct and the harsh chemicals needed to make true biodiesel.

I don't run 100% DSE-ized veggie fuel, I'm doing about 70% and the rest diesel, but it sure saves a lot of $$. Counting the diesel, gasoline and chemicals mixed in my cost works out to under $1. 60 a gallon. I don't go 100% because my WVO I get is pretty heavy thick stuff, it's mostly solid at room temp. In the winter I do a max of 25-30% and use only oil that doesn't have solid fats. I kinda separate it as I collect it and burn the clear oil in the winter, the lard in the summer.

I just mixed up quite a few gallons and filled up the tank 'cause I got a road trip this weekend. It's nice to not be greatly affected by the $4. 55-$4. 60 you see around here.

Here's some basic items you can round up for a "starter" kit: Get a turkey fryer, propane tank to go with it, and some buckets. I made a crude stand to hold 2 large sieves with two layers of cloth for filtering, with the bottom one using two layers of blue shop paper towels. I found these filter well. Then get yourself some cheap 5-gallon pails. I have a bucket with a 1/4" hole in the bottom which I put the heated oil in for filtering, runs out the bottom through the two layers of filtering into a collection bucket.

So I grab a bucket of oil, pour it through a plain sieve into my turkey fryer, add ingredients except for the gas, heat to 200F, then filter. I usually go ahead and let it cool a bit then put it in my regular fuel tank, then when I have the amount I want I run to the station and add about 3 gallons of gas and top off with diesel (4-10 gallons).

Vaughn

 

[BigPapa]

... install a fuel heater that runs off the cooling system...

Sound's like a job for my now unused heat exchanger left from my auto transmission. Anyone tried that?



Vaughn, are you running 2 tanks? from what I see in your post your just running the stock fuel tank.



Thanks,

Scott

 

[Vaughn MacKenzie]

Yes, just the stock fuel tank. I am thinking of adding a second tank. This weekend I ran into a situation where it was right up to 100 degrees here at home, and I made my fuel accordingly, but in my travels over the weekend I wound up in McCall Idaho where temps were down below 40 for the night. I had to make a quick trip to the station in McCall to add 4-5 gallons of diesel so it wouldn't be too thick in this morning. A second tank would've been nice in this situation.