What does it mean to me? ultra low sulfur diesel

[HTRDHLR]

What does it mean to me?

I read in the newspaper today that the epa has mandated "ultra low sulfur" Diesel by the year 2005 or 6. The article was about Buses that needed to have exhaust filters put on. The filter would clog if regular diesel was used so they are going to this ultra low sulphur stuff. What will this mean to guys like us that have diesel trucks?

 

[illflem]

Supposedly nothing except higher prices. The process of removing the sulfur also removes the lubricity, the refiners have been adding back lube in the form of a chemical. Older engines won't have to use the new fuel to perform the same but new ones will.

 

[Champane Flight]

Mandate

According to our higher ups. By the year 2005, 25% of diesel storage will have to be ultra low sulfer.

 

[pwr2tow]

Originally posted by illflem

the refiners have been adding back lube in the form of a chemical.

Goverment at work, probably worse for the enviroment and our help then the sulfer.



Ron

 

[rkressg]

Re: What does it mean to me?

Originally posted by HTRDHLR

I read in the newspaper today that the epa has mandated "ultra low sulfur" Diesel by the year 2005 or 6. The article was about Buses that needed to have exhaust filters put on. The filter would clog if regular diesel was used so they are going to this ultra low sulphur stuff. What will this mean to guys like us that have diesel trucks?

That low sulfer is to let the motor burn up quicker due to lack of lubricity. That way, the engine will only last as long as a gas engine and you will have to buy a new truck

 

[Champane Flight]

Lubricity

The lubricity of ultra low sulfer will have the same lubricity as our diesel today. However the refining process will change. It will cost more as the technology for refining the lower sulfer fuels costs are absorbed.

http://www.phillips66.com/newsroom/NewsReleases/rel398.html



All diesel fuels, according to grade, must still meet guidelines for lubricity before shipping, they obtain this by adding light oils to the fuel during/after refining process.

 

[WadePatton]

Revival



It means that injection pumps and injectors wear out faster. Anything with moving parts and tight clearances that (attempts to) utilize lubricity of the fuel to retard wear.



Good news. Bio takes care of that.



What I see: Eventually the gov't and makers will add a smidgeon of Bio to all diesel and pumps will be happy again. And the price won't change.



Right now some folks are enjoying the surplus of WVO, but if demand ever gets high enough--and/or the gov't meddles with it, the price WVO will go up and the appeal will go down.



I'm willing to gamble and make a small processor at controlled costs (salvage and Jeffro-engineered) to take advantage of the WVO in my area until it runs out. I'm betting that it'll take the gov't several years to really muck things up. This time the speed of Congress is a good thing.



At an estimated savings of $85 per tank and one tank weekly (three trucks, 2 drivers)--that's $4,420 annually and plenty to pay for processing upgrades and other vehicle needs.



Yeah, wrong forum--but this thread was started before the "alternative fuel" forum--feel free to moderate it to there.

 

[Gary - K7GLD]

I sure wish I had a decent workshop area here at our new place - I'd sure like to get involved with bio production. We use the truck seldom enough I could use whatever percentage I felt comfortable with, and would have time to REALLY refine and filter it to the max...

 

[EMD-Run8]

Yeah, but if the price gets much higher then the advantage of running a diesel becomes wiped out because of the cost of fuel!