Engine/Transmission (1998.5 - 2002) What exhaust housing do I have?

[foolkiller]

I'm in the market for some injectors so i can be rid of my banks ottomind. The exhaust housing came with the power pack for a 98. 5. I need to know what injectors my housing will support to include not constantly worrying about egt... which is not currently an issue for me and like it that way.



And also be prepared for more dumb Q's... i'm a new member who's made bad investments for upgrades and intend to get it (more?) right this time.



Also i have the original housing if it's better. I don't know it's size either.



Thanks folks and merry christmas/hannukah and so on... .

 

[foolkiller]

ok. it's understandable everyone's a little distracted with the SMARTY news

 

[SHobbs]

I will go out on a limb here. With an auto maybe an HY35 with a 9in or an HX35 with a 12in. On the front of the turbo there should be an I. D tag with what size turbo it is. The HY35 has a 9in and the HX35 a 12in. I could be wrong, but you never know,lol.

 

[johncameron]

Banks adds a 14cm housing to the PP system. It flows a bit better than the stock 9 or 12cm ones.



J

 

[mgoncalves]

Your stock turbo would be the HX 35 with a 12 cm exhaust housing. I'm just guessing, but I think that banks "quick spool" or whatever housing is a 16 cm.



If I had spent the money on a DTT, I would want them to make it work right before I spent the money all over again with someone else. There are a lot of DTT guys on this forum, I'm sure someone can get you the help you need. There's also alot of ATS guys on this forum, that can help you decide what to get from them if you want to go that route.



Welcome to the TDR.





Matt

 

[foolkiller]

thanks guys... it's an hx and i suspected a 14 but couldn't remember what i started with. i just knew it was 2cm larger than the stocker. any recommends for the biggest injectors that won't require me to mount the exit guage in the middle of the windshield? i've never pulled more than flat bed with one car on it or an 18' ski boat (8000 lbs?).

 

[Fishin Guide]

Ok, first thing first.



The Banks kit adds a 14cm housing to your stock HX35 turbo. This does not really increase it's performance potential as it only serves to barely lower EGTs.



If you are getting rid of the Banks stuff, that's fine. If not, that's fine too. I would consider a mild turbo upgrade. Say a PDR35 and add your 14cm housing.



As far as Injectors, I would run Don M's F1 Mach series. Pick your level and go from there. At 8000lbs, I would be tempted to stay on the smaller side of the sticks, but if you are mostly unloaded, consider a 3 or 4.



If you want more furling adjustability, go to the Comp. This will let you run bigger sticks and still tow. But you aren't going to be able to tow real heavy with a huge injector.



What's the deal with your transmission? I have a DTT and love mine. The more power I have added, the better it drives.



Not to take a poke at you, but a comment like that puts you in the great minority of satisfied owners. Let us know what it is doing and maybe there are a few suggestions available. If all else fails, I would think Bill K could get it straightened out for you.



Dave

 

[SnoKing]

What's the deal with your transmission? I have a DTT and love mine. The more power I have added, the better it drives.





Dave

I agree, that is a very unfair thing to put in a sig without explaining what is going on between him and DTT. SNOKING

 

[foolkiller]

thanks again for the inputs



i'm a little too worried about exhaust temps with big sticks. how does going with something smaller and using a fueling box to simulate big sticks when i want it work out. or do i not understand what a fueling box does?



also i'm dumb on turbos how would the pdr35 compare to my hx35 in regards to low end spool up and high end keep up? i'm not wanting to get too big a turbo and create lag.



the transmission? first off, please don't attack me in defense of your transmission.



i know i'm in the minority but i must have got a lemon. i know they have a lot of happy customers and i am happy for those who have a good DTT... ... but i don't. i don't think they believe me when i tell them what it's doing. i've been on the phone with them and basically just got a defensive attitude from the lady who answers the phone and the suggestions that bill makes just keep adding to the expense plus the installer is a $50 dollar trip each time they check it out with no fix or even ideas to fix it.



to get it to work close to correct i had to remove some of the high priced hardware in it and lower my throttle pressure. it's livable for now with some mild intermittent shifting hiccups but my confidence in it is shaken and it's basically a core to exchange for my next transmission now.



i know you guys like the symptoms so here goes



1. torque converter feels stock... i pulled the cover to see new paint. at one point i thought the installer possibly put the stocker back in. whatever it is it was new or had new paint.



2. 1-2 hesitation in shift and it felt like a ton of bricks was dropped in the back when it did shift... fixed that with new springs and lower throttle pressure but not sure what performance sacrifice i made.



3. 2-3 shift had a binding effect. i actually was being moved forward in my seat for that shift as though the brakes were applied for a split second. this seems to have decreased over time or one of the other adjustment made it better. i think i removed some spacer for this one but is still slightly noticable under light throttle.



4. i will readily admit that the torque converter no longer slips at all.



5. there is no five it just seems like the list should be longer after messing with it for so long.



6. don't forget the "on topic" stuff at the top please.

 

[Fishin Guide]

The PDR turbo is a "hybrid". Basically, it uses different parts in the front and rear to get as good *** spool as you have now, but you get some EGT reduction at the same time. Calls Piers and ask him about it. I have one on my truck and love the instant spool. Also, this would be a bolt on as you don't have to change anything other than the turbo and put your current housing on it.





Smaller sticks and a fueling box are the best of both worlds. When the box is off, you get a mild upgrade with the injectors alone and when the box is on, you'll get economy. Especially on the lower settings. Turn up the box and hang on!!



Dave

 

[Fishin Guide]

Ok, now on the trans, we can talk in PMs, but just for information... Do you have the Billet Accumulator and servo? This was the soiurce of my light throttle harsh shifts. Since I have upped the power, that is lessend.



So, if you put your foot in it, how hard is the 1-2 shift? DTT can tune your trans to shift anyway you want. Also, send me a PM with who you are talking to. I am not an installer, rep or in any way connected to the company. But, I would be willing help you brainstorm.



Dave

 

[foolkiller]

i'm pretty sure i have the billet accumulator and servo. i thought all DTTs came with that. i'd have dig up some paper work or call them to confirm.



the 1-2 tank shifting was cured with some different springs



the 1-2 hesitation was cured by lowering my throttle pressure well below bill's recommended dose



i don't remember the lady's name on the phone.



and i appreciate your help. i'm in the military and am due to change duty stations in about three months. so taking this thing apart right now is no good. i gave my little hoopty car to my niece so the truck is my only ride for now and can't risk taking it apart.



my plan is to get to my new duty sta and get another hoopty. then i'm free to play diesel mechanic again. that's why i'm inquiring about mods.



thanks, jeff

 

[Fishin Guide]

Regarding the billet accumulator, I belive that it essentially "locks out" that circut. So, you eliminate the sloppy 1-2 shift under throttle, but it is a little harsher under light throttle. I have the same thing in mine and I have learned to drive around it. basically, I use more throttle to get the truck moving. And I don't lift ubitl it shifts. They can put the stock setup in, but you may get internal leakage and possibly have issues witht he factory plastic parts shattering.



Most performance trannys will have little quirks. But it is worth it!!



Where are you at now? And where's the new duty station??





Dave

 

[foolkiller]

san diego now ... i don't know for sure where i'm going next. hopefully just another job here in san diego.





snoking, didn't see your post right away..... the sig stays..... as far as unfair or explanation. well i bet you and everyone at tdr know pretty much what i paid for it.....



what i paid for it plus expenses dealing with problems=unfair.

and i'm unsatified with it=explanation



or if you like



what i paid for it plus expenses dealing with problems=expanation.

and i'm unsatisfied with it=unfair



u pick



also, why did you not hammer me for the banks comment? i'm well aware of the personal preferences around here. you are welcome to yours. peace?



any purchase is a gamble to some extent. i've been real lucky on some. just not this one.

 

[SnoKing]

san diego now ... i don't know for sure where i'm going next. hopefully just another job here in san diego.





snoking, didn't see your post right away..... the sig stays..... as far as unfair or explanation. well i bet you and everyone at tdr know pretty much what i paid for it.....



what i paid for it plus expenses dealing with problems=unfair.

and i'm unsatified with it=explanation



or if you like



what i paid for it plus expenses dealing with problems=expanation.

and i'm unsatisfied with it=unfair



u pick



also, why did you not hammer me for the banks comment? i'm well aware of the personal preferences around here. you are welcome to yours. peace?



any purchase is a gamble to some extent. i've been real lucky on some. just not this one.

Well sometimes Stephan steps in to comment on situations like this, so we hear all sides. I can not hammer Banks or my exhaust brake and gauges will quit on me. SNOKING

 

[JR2]

FoolKiller - sounds like you have a beef with your installer, not your transmission parts provider. As a guy who has had two sets of DTT stuff installed by not so hot installers it was a battle to get them to do what Bill wanted. When they finally quit trying to "fix" the problem and do what Bill said it was all good. When transmission parts are installed and tuned correctly they work great, when they don't it sucks.



You can do what you want with your signature, but leaving that line in your sig will deter you from getting all the help you desire. Good luck with your bombing.