Where to find HOAT engine coolant?l

[jmtandem]

Are there any cross references to the newer coolants that is compatible with required HOAT? Or, where do you purchase HOAT?

 

[Killgore]

I did a recent flush and refilled with Zerex G-05 that I bought on-line from WalMart for about $12.50/gal. - Ed

 

[JR]

I recently bought 2 gallons of Motorcraft Gold (G05) from my local dealership. I can't remember the exact price but the bill was under $30 for 2 gallons.

 

[AH64ID]

The OEM HOAT is Zerex G-05 and NAPA carries it.

For a flush you need to use concentrate and for a refill the 50:50 is best.

 

[jmtandem]

Thanks for the replies. Will be at NAPA tomorrow.

 

[CKESSEL]

For my rides, I get it from the dealer. One difference to consider between dealer and parts store: o.e. coolants contain an extra additive called Bitrex. This embitters the coolant, making it taste nasty to anything that tries to consume it. Coolant consumption will kill or at the least take out your kidneys. If you have pets, nose miners or other critters around you may want to consider this. I have pets and there are some rodents around that I don't want my furry buddies to ingest if they got into coolant.

 

[Killgore]

Aha! I knew there must be a reason why they get about $27.00 per gallon around here for the stuff. Oh, wish me luck. I've got to take 'precious' into the dealer for a recall Monday. It'll be her first trip in seven years. I'm not sure whether or not I'll be able to sleep tonight for worrying.
- Ed

 

[jwduke]

Check O'Rilley's auto parts, they have it too.

Just checked the price there it is $18.99 ouch!

 

[thashane]

As a heads up, my Oreilly/kragens kept the zerex in the back and you had to ask for it, bc of people stealing it.

 

[LFalconer]

Napa has it for 12.50 a gallon, got 3 gallons waiting for flush and hose change saturday Zerex G-05.

Luke

 

[RustyJC]

For my rides, I get it from the dealer. One difference to consider between dealer and parts store: o.e. coolants contain an extra additive called Bitrex. This embitters the coolant, making it taste nasty to anything that tries to consume it. Coolant consumption will kill or at the least take out your kidneys. If you have pets, nose miners or other critters around you may want to consider this. I have pets and there are some rodents around that I don't want my furry buddies to ingest if they got into coolant.

The toxicity problem with ethylene glycol is a primary reason that most stationary industrial engine manufacturers now utilize or approve propylene glycol based coolants. Propylene glycol is non-toxic and (in food grade) is actually used as a food additive.

Ethylene glycol leaks or spills are just too much of a safety, regulatory and remediation problem for cooling systems that take hundreds of gallons of coolant.

Rusty

 

[mwilson]

Ask for a cross reference and you shall receive........


View attachment EG Coolants in North America.pdf

 

[User113]

The only comment I have is that the chart seem somewhat dated; the last two jugs of the Mopar HOAT (embittered) coolant I bought were pink. It had been orange before that.

 

[mwilson]

Yes, I have asked Penray for a new one BUT it does show the five compatible brands of HOAT which is what he asked for.

It also shows the OAT that can be added to HOAT down bottom. Over a 10% mix can reduce the corrosion protection BUT if you are low on coolant and need something right now other than swamp water it opens up a whole range of OAT that can be added.

Bottom line...Our engines don't have wet sleeves. It is good to change coolant on time and stick with one style but it is nowhere near as critical on these engines as it is on the wet sleeved diesel engines. 500,000 miles of crappy cooling system maintenance on one of big engines will do some damage.

 

[User113]

Sorry, I didn't mean to sound disparaging. I was just pointing it out for those who may still have orange coolant in their vehicles. I have bookmarked the chart, since it has very useful information.

 

[mwilson]

Didn't take it that way,a newer one is needed.

It is the only one that I have ever seen that spelled it all out.

It is no longer on the Pen Ray website so Im glad that I saved a few copies.

 

[Joseph Donnelly]

Don't use HOAT that has 2-ethyl hexanoate in it. That ingredient is what kills rubber seals and head gaskets.

 

[jmtandem]

HOAT antifreeze coolant

Don't use HOAT that has 2-ethyl hexanoate in it. That ingredient is what kills rubber seals and head gaskets.

Thanks for the info. Appreciate it.

 

[JR]

DexCool is about the only OEM that used 2EH that I'm aware of, and I'm not even sure they use it anymore with the new formula. Gotta watch some of the "universal" coolants as I've seen some of them use it in their formula. Peak Global is one universal coolant I found that looks like a good coolant, a non 2-EH formula that is phosphate-free and silicate-free. It is considered a lifetime formula, and when I had to put a new radiator in my 98 I did a thorough flush and used the Peak Global. I don't know if I buy the lifetime fill but even if I can double the intervals of traditional antifreeze I'll be money ahead.