Where to find synthetic oil?

[Midnight]

Where do you guy's buy your synthetic oils at? I have only been able to find Amzoil, and they want $9something a litre.

 

[SSchang]

I have NAPA order the Valvoline Premium Blue Extreme. Seems like it's about $22 / gallon.



Scott

 

[Diesel Power]

Where do you guy's buy your synthetic oils at? I have only been able to find Amzoil, and they want $9something a litre.

shoot me a pm, i will fix the cost issue Oo. i allways sell at dealer cost

 

[GaryCarter]

I've been getting Rotella Syn. at Tractor supply... don't think they are in your area, though. Several local shops carry Amsoil, usually around $18-20 per gallon IIRC.



Gary

 

[coobie]

Where do you guy's buy your synthetic oils at? I have only been able to find Amzoil, and they want $9something a litre.

I just bought Schaeffer oil 5w-40 supreme 9000 full synthectic for $13 bucks gal. from a fellow named Gene shubert located in Ney Ohio. His phone #419-658-2258,great guy to deal with. Check on schaeffer oil prodocts on this website www.bobistheoilguy.com they come highly recommended. coobie Oo.

 

[Buffalo]

Coobie,



I've been thinking of trying the Schaeffer's 9000, myself. $13. 00 per gal. sounds like a good price. Was shipping very expensive?



I live in Phoenix, AZ & was wondering about how much it would cost to ship to my home? We have a couple of dealers, here, but I think they are more expensive than what you paid.



Thanks.



Joe F. (Buffalo)

 

[Cattletrkr]

Coobie,



I've been thinking of trying the Schaeffer's 9000, myself. $13. 00 per gal. sounds like a good price.

For $13/gal I've gotta wonder if it's a "real" synthetic.

 

[coobie]

For $13/gal I've gotta wonder if it's a "real" synthetic.

If you think its not go to there website and check coobie

 

[coobie]

Coobie,



I've been thinking of trying the Schaeffer's 9000, myself. $13. 00 per gal. sounds like a good price. Was shipping very expensive?



I live in Phoenix, AZ & was wondering about how much it would cost to ship to my home? We have a couple of dealers, here, but I think they are more expensive than what you paid.



Thanks.



Joe F. (Buffalo)

Joe,I placed a order for the supreme 9000 FULL Synthetic oil,and some synthetic gear lube,and other things for a total of $305 bucks,my dealer delivered it my house for free,great service HUH!!If you by over $300 bucks worth of schaeffer products he gives you a 25% discount. My dealer lives in northern Ohio. his name is gene shubert,super good guy to deal with. His PH# 419-658-2258. I am having the oil changed,diffs changed,tranfer case changed to schaeffers tomarrow. I will let you know how I like there products coobie

 

[Midnight]

That sounds like a great deal, but by the time shipping and broker fees are paid it's not so good for us canadians. We get up the whazoo when ever we ship across the boarder. It's maddning. I have to keep looking over here. We are going over in august for a long weekend, maybe i'll bring some back with me then, if i haven't found here.

 

[nickleinonen]

~$23. 00cdn for a 4 liter jug of 0w40 esso xd-3 from walmart. . can be had for less from distributors. . check around the truck stops in windsor. . you might find one that stock delvac 1 or rotellaT syn. . duron synthetic is also pretty good, but like rotellaT, it's a #3 hydrocrack. .

 

[DPKetchum]

www.amsoil.com pretty easy and big brown deliverys it

 

[Midnight]

Thanks Nick, i never thought of trying Husky truck stop. I did look at the Walmart here in town but they didn't have anything synthetic.

 

[amsoilman]

Here's something one should consider when looking for a "synthetic Oil"



In 1999, the National Advertising Division of the Council of Better Business Bureaus ruled in Mobil Oil’s challenge that Castrol’s “advertisements inaccurately represented that the current formulation of Syntec is synthetic”. Mobil’s position was “true synthetics had to be formulated from small molecules subject to a chemical reaction, not built from natural petroleum”. Castrol uses a “hydroprocessed mineral oil” (a Group III base stock) as the base stock in their Castrol Syntec. Previously, synthetic oil was accepted to mean the base stock was not conventional petroleum oil, regardless of refining process. This ruling changed all that.



The most popular and best performing conventional base stock was formulated with polyalphaolefin (PAO), together with other non-petroleum products, such as ester, to achieve optimum performance and seal swell. This is in essence the base stock used by AMSOIL.

People are more than a little surprised when they hear that many oils now on the market that are labeled as “synthetic” are really conventional oils. They are being advertised and labeled as synthetic oil, but are really specially refined conventional petroleum oil. People ask me how these companies can do that.

I first included in this newsletter over a year ago excerpts from an article in Lubricants World Magazine entitled “A Defining Moment for Synthetics” which reviewed the facts and circumstances around the challenge made by Mobile against Castrol’s advertising.



In essence, the term “synthetic” was determined to not be a scientific term, but was judged to be a marketing term. The definition of synthetic lubricants was broadened to the use of the term “synthetic” in referring to motor oil that had the ability to provide synthetic performance, but without defining synthetic performance. In other words, beauty is now in the eye of the beholder – but without full disclosure!



Now, as a result of this ruling, many of the labels on motor oils that you see on store shelves that say “synthetic” is not a synthetic (in the classical sense), and could now be what used to be labeled a “synthetic-blend”. According to Lubes n’ Greases magazine (July 2001), “…most large lubricant producers moved quickly to replace PAO with Group III base stocks in their synthetic [passenger car motor oil] formulations. ”

How can you tell? Price is one way. Hydrocracked oil, according to Lubes n’ Greases magazine, is $1. 50 to $2. 00 per gallon cheaper, half that of PAO’s.

But if it is labeled as a duck, does it walk like a duck?

According to Lubes n’ Greases magazine, “PAO has a significant advantage in low-temperature performance. This could prove to be the handhold needed to pull base stock demand out of the [Group III] space and into PAO territory. Market development will be slow, but auto makers specifying the use of 0W-30 and 0W-20 engine oil would drive such a victory. Since PAO may be the only show in town to met the cold-cranking specification for these grades, ultimately this could result in a prize for PAO bigger than the one it lost in its first major battle with Group III. ”



Beyond the passenger car motor oil market, Lubes n’ Greases says PAO still enjoys double-digit growth in many industrial lubricant applications. “Industrial end-users are far less enamored with the term “synthetic” than they are with the track record of success PAO has built handling extreme temperatures and other challenging operating conditions. PAO will continue to do battle with Group III in the industrial segment, but it remains a strong incumbent and is expected to not only hold its ground, but also grow. PAO continues to capture market share in heavy-duty gear oil applications and shows promise as a means to extend drains in heavy-duty diesel engines equipped with exhaust gas recirculation (EGR). ”



Wayne

amsoilman

 

[Buffalo]

Coobie,



I called Gene Shubert & you are right, very nice, helpful man. Was willing to bend over backwards to help me out & with absolutely no pressure to buy, from him.



Good prices are available but, you have to make large purchases. However, if you include things like gear oils, fuel conditioners, greases, etc. You can reach the $300. 00 level fairly easily. That level gives you good discounts plus free shipping.



The same gallon of 9000-5X40, here in Phoenix, is $18. 41 (when buying a case of six gals. , $110. 46/case).



So, buying in volume will save you some money.



Joe F. (Buffalo)

 

[coobie]

Coobie,



I called Gene Shubert & you are right, very nice, helpful man. Was willing to bend over backwards to help me out & with absolutely no pressure to buy, from him.



Good prices are available but, you have to make large purchases. However, if you include things like gear oils, fuel conditioners, greases, etc. You can reach the $300. 00 level fairly easily. That level gives you good discounts plus free shipping.



The same gallon of 9000-5X40, here in Phoenix, is $18. 41 (when buying a case of six gals. , $110. 46/case).



So, buying in volume will save you some money.



Joe F. (Buffalo)

Joe,glad to hear he got back to you. I spent over $300. 00 on my order. It does save you some money to order in volume. The way I figured it with the barrel of crude oil going up every day I ordered a years worth of oil and grease for my truck and the wifes car. The chevron delo around here used to be $6. 42 gal. now is $8. 69 gal. in the past year Take care. coobie