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Hey fellas,

I'm curious as to who all makes injectors for the 2003. I see that Diesel Dynamics does but does anybody else and if so are they as good as the DD's? I looked on the Bullydog site but they didn't specify if any of thier injectors would work on an 03. Any help would be great. TIA:cool:
 
I only trust the DD stuff. They really know what they are doing, so it should be a no-brainer and whose injectors to buy... Their R&D is top notch, along with customer service.
 
Come to May Madness (7th--10th). A lot of high hp Rams and vendors will be at the Dyno Days (8th--9th at Silver State Motorsports) showing what they have ready for the 2003, among other things.
 
We have done quite a few of them, but right now it is a little cost prohibited. In the very near future you should see prices fall drastically.



Also if you are going to run a "box" only the smaller injectors work well unless you plan on working on the fuel system.
 
Who makes injectors for 03

As someone who has had 2 sets of DD injectors I can tell you their injectors are probably as good as anyones until you have a problem then you can hear every excuse there is including WE DON'T MAKE BAD INJECTORS, I thought every human made a mistake but I guess not. I think Lawrence is as talented as they come but those that are hanging on his coattails I have nothing good to say. Chad Riley with Diesel Performance Unlimited also sells injectors for an 03 and he will actually talk to you about what you want and talk to you as an equal and not talk down to you like Keith or Mark. Just my 2 cents.
 
That's very interesting to hear. I got a bad injector from BD and they were more than happy to send me another set. Other than having to pay a lot of extra shipping and waiting a month for a credit on the orig injectors, I was happy with the service.
 
bad experience with diesel dynamics

I also had a bad experience with diesel dynamics, after having a set dd2's,cam plate,afc spring installed i began to sense and feel a miss . I asked dd to please help me with this very annoying problem,after driving 600 miles from AZ and arriving a 1:00 p. m. i was told by kieth,i (the customer)screwed up,you were supposed to have been here at 8:eek:o am. Maybe this was true,but the attitude i got was unbelievable!!I was told to be back in the morning and Lawrence would have a chance to look things over. well to my amazement Lawrence wanted to blow me off so he could work on his own truck while i was standing right there!After standing around the shop for 3-4 hrs. i talked to a few other fellas about my problem. It seemed all fingers were pointing to the injectors,brought this to marks attention he told me we do not have problems with our injectors. I think Lawrence does great work but his staff needs a lesson in customer relations!!!To his day they have never attempted to offer any assistance with my problem. Buyer beware!!!
 
If that is DD's idea of customer service then they will never recieve any business from me!!! Money is too hard to come by to put up with that kind of garbage.



DD, What gives?:confused: :confused:





Walcott, Sorry for the crappy treatment that you got!!
 
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DD'S are the way to go! I will not buy a set until the price comes down though.



As far as the customer service comment, you should have been there at 8:00.



For DD i will give this advice: you can make 99% of the customers happy, it is the 1% you don't that will buy other injectors and get on this board and scream about how good BD's or Quad's injectors are and you will see a loss of more than 1% of your injector business. The injector technology is out there for any company to exploit(they will just copy yours) so be careful how you treat us (TDR members).





That being said i will only Buy DD's injectors unless i am convinced otherwise buy someone on this board to do so.
 
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Service should be available with a smile. A little courtesy goes a long way even if there is nothing wrong and can be explained away. Being on time is nice, but do to circumstances beyond our control, doesn't always happen. My 2 cents. Tbob
 
I have no experience with DD either way, and no offense to anyone in this thread intended, but... .



If I drove 600 hundred miles and was blown off by the guy I came to see because he was working on his own truck or whatever- I'd be pretty upset. There was probably a valid point with Walcott being late and missing an appointment time, but hear me out.



I'm not saying Lawrence didn't have urgent plans (had to be somewhere and his truck was broke, needed his truck for the weekend, etc) and that he should have dropped everything he was doing and jumped right under the hood- BUT Walcott is making it sound like Lawrence didn't feel like he was obligated to explain why he wasn't able to attend to him just then. Just flat out blew him off. Now if Lawrence graced Walcott with his presence to explain the situation, then that's different and I'll change my opinion of the company, but that's not the vibe I'm picking up.



That isn't right. Someone who buys your product from out of town, has problems with it, drives cross country for your help... and you don't take the time to explain to him why you're not able to see him? I don't care how late he was, Walcott was owed at least that much.



"Sorry folks. Park's closed. Moose outside should have told ya"
 
Well, I'm not one to air any dirty laundry, but since you guys brought that situation up, I feel it is necessary to give our side of the equation. Again, I don't have any hard feelings against either of you guys, but I don't think it's fair for you to come on here and give your side after 1 other post and think that we won't respond with the full story.



First, Jim - I don't remember any conversation with you at all about problems with your truck. If you recall, you came in with a Dr. P Phase 2 kit and your 2001 truck made 203. 6hp. Thats less than our stock 2001. 5 trucks made stock, and we told you that. At the end of that day (5/18/01) you left with one of our True Torque boxes and your truck made 265. 7hp.



On 8/24/01) you came back for more power. We upgraded you to our Stage 2 injectors, an Ultimate Powe Module and our HX-40. Your truck left at 393. 5 and we suspected you had one of the few trucks with a weak ECM program from the factory. It took us almost a full day of playing around and swapping parts from our own truck onto yours to come to this conclusion, and to give you an idea of where to go... although we did not charge you for any of this troubleshooting. On 2/1/02, you came back with a freshly reprogrammed ECM and made 417. 2 hp with the same setup. At May Madness 2002, you dynoed 414. 2hp.



After all that, I don't remember you having any problems with your truck. I do seem to remember you saying you were buying a 2002 truck, but from your story eludes my memory. I do see what we sold you a set of Stage 2 injectors in September of 2002 though. I assume they were for the new truck you spoke of. Tell you what, if there was a problem that is unresolved with them, you can send them and we will test them for you. As with all of our customers, we will repair or replace them if there is anything wrong with them.



To address Alan (Walcott), you have a green 12v truck. You came in with one of Piers' pumps on your truck 252. 8hp on 8/23/01. I remember this because you asked us if we would ship your core pump back to PDR for you. You complained of uncontrollable EGT's and wanted more power. We added delivery vavles, set the timing, added our Stage 2 injectors and installed our camplate kit. Your truck left that day at 301. 6hp.



You called at some point and said your truck was jerking and shuddering, so we made an appointment for you on the Wednesday of May Madness 2002 at 8am, as our dyno sessions were to start at noon. You arrived at approximately 11am and we told you that we did not have time before the dyno event started to look at your truck. You were upset and disappointed, but you had an 8am appointment and missed it. Had we not had people standing around to get dynoed, we would not have turned you away. I believe that later that week, Lawrence did look at your truck and determined that the internals (rack) were worn and needed replacement. This is why your truck shudders as the rack is moving around inside the pump on it's own accord. You said you believe the problem was from our injectors, to which we replied that the problem most certainly was there all along, but when you add bigger injectors, any small problem with the injector pump will be greatly amplified and much more noticeable.



That was as far as our conversation went to the best of my recollection. I believe you said you were going to buy a pump from Piers because he was cheaper than us, which is your right.



If anyone has any other questions, please feel free to PM me. I did PM you Jim, but you did not respond.
 
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Duck:

"Sorry folks. Park's closed. Moose outside should have told ya"





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Duck you are right but there are always two sides to the story.



Now has anyone else had a problem with DD? Now is the time to speak up maybe we have problem maybe we don't.



My opinion is that we don't. But it does sounds like somone at DD does not realize how small the Cummins diesel world is. There are no monoplies in the dodge CTD world so customer service is your business!or you will not have a business!



I know the DD products are outstanding but as to the customer service, good or bad?
 
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Keith,

First of all it was not a PDR pump, I did not have a problem with EGTS- they were fine. The day we arrived was the day before Dyno Days not the day of. This was the day that Lawrence blew up his turbo in the down pipe. It was clear that DD was more interested in their own trucks then their customers. Lawrence did dyno the truck. Its funny how things get sugar coated when you know that other people may be watching.



I did remove and replace the P7100 pump with a BD unit, only to find that the same problem still existed. I removed the DD2's and had a Bosch certified pump facility flow and check the injector's. As I suspected a injector nozzle was bad and needed to be replaced.

No hard feelings but get the facts straight if you want to go public.
 
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Originally posted by Walcott

Keith,

First of all it was not a PDR pump, I did not have a problem with EGTS- they were fine. The day we arrived was the day before Dyno Days not the day of. This was the day that Lawrence blew up his turbo in the down pipe. It was clear that DD was more interested in their own trucks then their customers. Lawrence did dyno the truck. Its funny how things get sugar coated when you know that other people may be watching.



I did remove and replace the P7100 pump with a BD unit, only to find that the same problem still existed. I removed the DD2's and had a Bosch certified pump facility flow and check the injector's. As I suspected a injector nozzle was bad and needed to be replaced.

No hard feelings but get the facts straight if you want to go public.



like they said, two sides to every story. I can tell you poor customer care puts a sour taste in my mouth.
 
Keith,

I guess maybe you need to read my post again. I wrote that I thought DD products were probably as good as anyone elses. My problem was that when I did have a problem, and I did call and talk to you, that is when you started with the excuses including we don't make bad injectors. I expect anything that involves humans to be flawed from time to time. I was looking for some help to figure out what happened when you blew me off. For you to offer your help now that it's out in the open and six months later just adds insult to injury. I really think there are hundreds of people out there offering basically the same thing you just have to find the one that fits you and hope once you've spent your money they don't forget who you are and they don't treat you like they are superior to you but treat you as an equal. As you mentioned I got burned by Dr. P and I won't use them again or recommend them. I thought at DD I found something different until I needed your help, the joke was on me. Maybe what happened to Walcott and me was the exception but I won;t take the chance again, good luck to those of you that do. My 2 cents.
 
First I'd like to say I love my DD III's. My problem with you Keith is that for someone who you have never delt with before why do you automatically assume that it could not possibly be a bad injector-you said all your (DD's) are tested before they leave your plant. Well after purchasing a set of III's from Piers and having a bad vibration at idle that went away above 1800 rpm and only changing injectors (275's to III's) you told me it couldn't possibly be your injectors. After a second set arrived from Piers and swapping them out problem gone. Unfortunatly it cost me shipping and a set pf delivery tubes to prove you wrong. But I probably would buy injectors from DD in the future but remember (Keith) there is only one Homer Simpson out there. :rolleyes:
 
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