Off Roading Who is running 35's on a 2nd Gen, no lift?

[joaker]

So how many of you out here are using a 35 inch tire with no suspension/body lifting done? Factory wheels? I am wanting the Toyo Open Country MT's in the 315/75 16 size... . I am presently running Wrangler MT/R's in a 305/70 16 size and they rub on the control arm at full lock, will the 35's rub much more? Can one adjust the steering so it won't steer to that extreme amount where the rubbing comes into play? And lastly, will these rub on my fenders with no lift? Thanks guys/gals, much appreciated.

 

[Fishin Guide]

Will it rub? Most likely.



If you have rub with a 305 width, I would think it is a very high probability that a 315 width will as well.



With regards to rubbing the fender liner. Yes, it will.



Most of the guys that have no rub issues have pre 2000 trucks I noticed. Maybe offset is a little different?



Dave

 

[joaker]

Interesting, I would not have expected there to be much if any difference between the pre and post 2000 trucks... . ? I know I saw a newer one with 35 inch BFG's on it, he said it rubbed a little on the control arm, but never mentioned any problems fender wise...

 

[Fishin Guide]

And there just may be some differences in manufacting of these trucks. Som may rub others may not.



I would think with a 35, you would want at least a leveling kit just to make it look right.



Dave

 

[JDougherty]

i would think the differences in rub are related to the wheels, i have aftermarket wheels and could easily fit the 35's w/o a problem(currently 305/70/16), but then again my tires would stick about out about2".



i could not put these tires on my factory wheels because they were only 6. 5" wide.



the newer second gen factory wheels have different backspacing, that is why you hit and i would not.

 

[CyberRanger]

We are running Denman Coyotes 36s (305/85R16) on stock rims on our '02. We get a tiny bit of rubbing on the plastic inner fender during turns & the shoulder of the tread will rub on the upper leading arms on full lock. The tire rubbing on the leading arms sound much worse than it is, but doesn't do anything to the tires to speak of. This is our second set of the Denmans. The first set had about 70K on them before we replaced them.

 

[2broke2smoke]

i've got a set of third gen alloys with 35's on stock suspension and only rub the arms a little ... no rubbing on plastic at all

 

[joaker]

The 305/70 16 is a 33 inch tire actually, 33x12. 5 tire. That is what mine are, a 315 75 16 is a 35. Thank for the input too guys!! Much appreciated, keer 'er coming.

 

[Mactruck]

I have the 315/75r17's on my 2nd gen. I put a leveling kit on though to get them to fit well underneath. Any rubbing is usually due to a combination of tire width and wheel backspacing. Lifting it gets alot of those issues out of the way. IMHO

 

[biggy238]

My aftermarket rims put the tire (35X12. 5R16. 5 X 10) into the back on the fender liner hard enough to rub holes. It seems you either have that or control arm rub. Without my spacers, the tires rubbed badly enough to be dangerous in city driving.



If you drive hard with the 2nd gen I'd definately get a spacer kit. Even turning up into driveways can cause a rub. It's not worth the trouble of having to do it in hindsight.

 

[Desert Proven]

Keep in mind that the Toyo Open Country M/T is slightly wider and taller than many "35's" out there.



I run them on factory alloys with KORE suspension. My truck sits about 2+ inches taller than stock. I run it hard off road and it doesn't rub on the fender wells, but does rub on the control arms at full lock.

 

[TJany]

i'm running 315/75 R16 Cooper Discoverer ST's... i rub on the control arms at full lock, but have yet to have a problem with hitting the fenders. When i first put the tires on (about 20,000 miles ago and less than a year) i was concerned about the wheel well liner, so i took a heat gun and heated the crap out of the liner and was able to push it out an extra inch or so. I don't know if this really helped or not, but i have yet to rub on the fender or liner. I have a pretty good pic of what the truck looks like with the 315's in my readers rigs, and the truck is at stock height on stock rims. I have a buddy with a 2001, and another with a 2002 and as far as i know neither of them have issues other than the control arms



Tim

 

[MarkMiller]

Realize that different manufacturers measure their tire differently. A 35x12. 5x16 in BFG measures at about 34 inches. A 315 BFG may measure differently from a SAE size too. A Pitbull 35 measures just over 35. A Parnelli Jones dirt grip 35 is actually 35. 3 inches. A super swamper 35 is usually around 34 actually. My old mickey thompsons in 35x14. 5. 15 measured 35 on the dot. My current 33x12. 5 swamper trxus MT radials measure a true 33.



Rubbing is dangerous, it develops hot spots and wears excessively on one section of the tire which can deform it and cause it to decay. I have taken a more extreme position on tire rub but I believe people need to pay more attention to it. If you want to run bigger tires you need to it safely. A rubbing tire can catch and fold a section of body sheetmetal into a sharp knife and cut the tread. A blowout at freeway speeds can get the adrenilin flowing but it is dangerous to you and everyone around you. If it is "just rubbing the plastic liner" what is behind that plastic liner? Wires, brake lines? Some rub at full crank means you need to adjust the steering stop on the knuckle. It is a bolt with a nut on it threaded into the rear edge of the outer C of the axle.



To get 33's to clear well with no rub at any point I had to install a leveling kit. Mine is a metal ring style from BDS purchased locally with longer shocks. there is no rub at any point in the suspension travel or during turning. To run 35's I would add a set of the longer DT arms to my leveling kit. Or run a Kore kit with the longer DT arms.

 

[Nate]

MY BFGs rub a bit on the fender liner, that's with a levelling kit. Not the end of the world, but it's a bit annoying.

 

[JHerrlich]

My BFGs only rub on the control arms. I'm running 315/75R16s on stock alloy wheels. I've beat my truck's suspension at Glamis and the only spot they rubbed was in tight turns on the control arms.

 

[joaker]

So the general concensus would be that there will be rubbing, likely only on the control arms, and that the best wheel to go with would be factory, as the aftermarket offset wheels typically cause wheel well rubbing? Thanks for all the input too, much appreciated.

 

[Leathl_WS6]

I have the 315's Toyo's and they do rub on the control at full lock. My question is how do I stop it from rubbing. If I lift it with a 3 inch kit won't it still rub. seems to me it would. I already have the leveler on so a 3 inch kit would really only raiise me 1 more inch.



Can I replace the control arms with different ones to prevent the rubbing?



Thanks Rob

 

[Fishin Guide]

I have the 315's Toyo's and they do rub on the control at full lock. My question is how do I stop it from rubbing. If I lift it with a 3 inch kit won't it still rub. seems to me it would. I already have the leveler on so a 3 inch kit would really only raiise me 1 more inch.



Can I replace the control arms with different ones to prevent the rubbing?



Thanks Rob

Don't turn the wheel as far. That's about as easy of a fix as you'll find. The ideal fix is a different wheel with only a small change in backspacing to clear the arms.



Yes, the arms can be changed. You'll be able to buy a few sets of wheels for what they'll set you back though.



Dave

 

[Leathl_WS6]

The truck has a plow on it and I plow a lot with it. Not turning the wheel that far really isn't an option.



I have 2 sets of wheels stock and the Kore Weld wheels I bought them because I wanted to keep the tire under the truck. They both rub the control arm.



Why is it theese wheels don't rub with the kore suspension? I didn't think the kore kit came with control arms, does it?



The money isn't a huge concearn. Witin reason I think I need full turn more than I need the money... Who sells them and how much are they?



Thanks Rob

 

[Duluth Diesel]

I am running 315/75 16 Cooper Discoverer S/T tires on factory alloy rims. These tires measure 34. 6 inches diameter, so not quite a true 35. I have stock suspension, but my truck does have the camper and plow packages, so I may have a little more clearance from the factory than trucks with no camper or plow packages. These tires will rub the track bar at full steering lock. They do not rub the fender liner at all. I've been happy with the fit and I will be running these tires again.