Why Bio????

[ThrottleJockey]

Isn't WVO being used as a diesel fuel? Why is WVO being 'converted' to bio diesel? So that the end user can skip the heating process?



Does 'transesterfication' bestow some other property to WVO that is shared with diesel?



Instead of heating it, why can't we 'thin' it with a whole buncha cetane boost and anti gel and injector cleaner? Use WVO as a base stock with excellent lubricity and just add the anti gel to get the consistency we want?



Brian

 

[SKargo]

Not sure on the chemistry, but thinning with additives would make the price jump i would thing?

 

[ThrottleJockey]

SKargo,



I hear you. But the base stock is free, and the price per bottle is around $10. 00 each.

And each bottle will treat, what, 200 gallons?

Let's cut that in half and buy 3 bottles to treat 100 gals of WVO. 100 gallons EACH bottle. We've got $30. 00 in 100 gals of ready fuel? Throw in a couple gallons of kerosene... .

 

[LightmanE300]

ThrottleJockey do some research on biodiesel. I dont even know where to begin to address your questions, lol. In short, what you are suggesting by 'cutting' wvo will not get you the same result or even close.

 

[ThrottleJockey]

Hey Lightman,



I believe you, just tell me why. So your'e saying WVO isn't as usable inside our combustion chamber?



I don't mean the bio diesel from soybeans, that stuff is great.



I mean the homebrew guys make from WVO.

 

[Vaughn MacKenzie]

WVO is far more viscous than diesel. Takes quite a bit of heat or processing to get it in the ballpark with diesel.



Viscous fuel doesn't atomize worth a darn coming out of the injector. Basically a stream not a mist. Doesn't work real great. Really strains the pump too.



Vaughn

 

[nps]

Like Vaughn said.



To get WVO thin enough, you have to pre-heat it to a VP-frying 160* before burning (and to think members are spending time and money trying to cool their fuel!). To run WVO you have to get an onboard french fryer to heat up the oil.



Processing WVO into biodiesel removes the glycerins which in turn makes the resultant fluid thin.

 

[rrausch]

Here is another consideration:

I've been looking at the labels on fry oils and other veg oils at Smart & Final. I've seen Cottonseed oil, corn oil, veg oil, canola oil, peanut oil, soybean oil as well as generic "veg" oil mixes. Some of the oils say "Ascorbic acid added as a preservative".



I am assuming that the cooking process used with WVO would probably render the acid inert, but what if I just bought a 5 gal jug and poured it in my tank--would the ascorbic acid cause problems then? Anybody know?

 

[tmh1955]

Check this out

www.biodiesel.org

everything you ever wanted to know about biodiesel

 

[ThrottleJockey]

That's it? It's a viscosity issue? I knew it! Thanks guys, for the help.





Soooooo..... Back to my first post!



Seriously, though. If anyone knows of a product 'stack' that can dissolve the wax, carbon and varnish like substances left behind while burning WVO (besides the heat ) and can reduce the viscosity a bit (a solvent?) keep the injectors and the CC clean and maybe bump the cetane a tad.....



... Let me know!



Another site says so far a 50/50 mix of #2 and WVO works well. Very clean burn and no residue.....



Well Lightman, I'll keep up with the research!



Brian

 

[Cooker]

That's it? It's a viscosity issue? I knew it! Thanks guys, for the help.





Soooooo..... Back to my first post!



Seriously, though. If anyone knows of a product 'stack' that can dissolve the wax, carbon and varnish like substances left behind while burning WVO (besides the heat ) and can reduce the viscosity a bit (a solvent?) keep the injectors and the CC clean and maybe bump the cetane a tad.....



... Let me know!



Another site says so far a 50/50 mix of #2 and WVO works well. Very clean burn and no residue.....



Well Lightman, I'll keep up with the research!



Brian

https://www.turbodieselregister.com/forums/showthread.php?t=138053



There is a link to a paper written buy a prof at the University of Idaho. It is an interesting read as to the "why Bio" discussion.