why no ramburban or ramhoe

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when is dodge and chrysler going to get a clue, meanwhile ford and chevy keep selling huge volumes of expeditions and suburbans and tahoes, while chrysler is focusing on things that aren't selling like the numerous jeep products, compass, patriot, commander, and nitro. I just can't figure out who is running the marketing department there, they need to get a clue, offer a ramburban with a diesel, a ramhoe with a hemi.



I guess they pulled the same thing a few years back we complained and wanted a real 4 door ram 2nd gen, what was the response, put the extra money into offering the DAKOTA in single cab, extended cab, and real 4 door models, the dakota has never been a barn burner in the sales department, the money would have been much better spent on offering more configurations in the big seller the ram. dodge get a clue
 
The 6. 6 Duramax was slated to go into the 3/4 Suburban-Yukon, but unfortunaly you can only get the 6. 6 in the 3/4 ton full size vans as of late. Even then it does not have the new 6 speed hydromatic or the Allison behind it, only a 4L85E in the vans. There are are aftermarket companies that are doing 6. 6 conversion. I have read about a few.



I think GM is hold off putting a diesel in the Tahoe/Burb/Yukon until this comes out...





GM Plans First Light Duty V-8 Clean Diesel for North America



High-efficiency V-8 scheduled for pickup trucks under 8,600 pounds Gross Vehicle Weight and HUMMER H2

Low emissions, high performance and excellent fuel economy

Expected to deliver class-leading torque, power and refinement

Manufactured at the GM Powertrain Tonawanda engine plant

TONAWANDA, N. Y. – General Motors Corp. will introduce a new, state-of-the-art 4. 5L V-8 Duramax turbo-diesel that improves engine fuel efficiency by 25 percent, reduces CO2 emissions by 13 percent and cuts particulates and NOx emissions by at least 90 percent for North American light duty trucks and the HUMMER H2 built after 2009.



The premium V-8 diesel is expected to deliver class-leading torque, power and refinement while maintaining a significant fuel efficiency advantage over comparable-output gasoline engines.



The new dual-overhead cam, four-valve V-8 diesel engine will fit within the same space of a small-block V-8 gasoline engine. This compact size is made possible by using integral cylinder head exhaust manifolds, integral cam cover intake manifolds and a narrow block.



“This new GM light duty diesel is expected to become a favorite among customers who require excellent towing ability and fuel efficiency,” said Tom Stephens, group vice president, GM Global Powertrain and Quality. “It will meet the stringent 2010 emissions standards, and it will be compliant in all 50 states, making it one of the cleanest diesel vehicles ever produced. ”



Environmental benefits of the new engine include a 13-percent reduction in CO2 versus gasoline engines, and at least a 90-percent reduction in particulates and NOx compared to diesel vehicles today. This will be GM’s first engine to use a selective catalytic reduction NOx aftertreatment system with a diesel particulate filter to help achieve the Tier 2 Bin 5 and LEV 2 emissions standards.



Technical highlights of the engine include aluminum cylinder heads with integrated manifolding; a variable-vane turbocharger with intercooling; a Compacted Graphite Iron (CGI) block for a stronger and lighter engine base (compared to lower-strength aluminum or heavier grey cast iron); and fracture-split main bearing caps and connecting rods for a precise fit. An electronically controlled, ultra-high-pressure, common-rail fuel system is used, which has the ability to inject fuel five times per combustion event to control noise and emissions.



“This new V-8 is not only a clean diesel meeting the toughest emissions requirements in North America, it also delivers an effortless performance feel because of its high torque across the speed range,” said Charlie Freese, executive director of GM Powertrain Diesel Engineering. “It is also significantly quieter than other diesels on the road today, with noise and vibration performance approaching gasoline V-8 levels. ”



Freese said the new V-8’s compact size enables it to fit in the envelope of a gasoline small-block engine, which provides GM the flexibility to introduce this engine in a wide variety of vehicle applications should there be future market demand.



The premium V-8 diesel engine is expected to deliver class-leading refinement, horsepower and torque and fulfill multiple vehicle applications with ratings in excess of 310 horsepower and 520 lb-ft of torque.



GM (Opel, Saab, Vauxhall and GMDAT ) currently offers 17 diesel engine variants in 45 vehicle lines around the world. GM sells more than one million diesel engines annually, with products that offer a range of choices from the 1. 3L four-cylinder diesel engine sold in the Opel Agila and Corsa, up to the 6. 6L V-8 Duramax diesel sold in full-size vans, heavy duty pickups and medium duty trucks in the U. S.



GM first introduced the Duramax diesel 6. 6L V-8 in the U. S. in the 2001 model year and since then, customer enthusiasm for this heavy duty diesel has been outstanding. In fact, GM’s heavy duty pickup truck market share has jumped nearly tenfold in the six years that Duramax engines have been offered.



General Motors Corp. (NYSE: GM), the world’s largest automaker, has been the annual global industry sales leader for 76 years. Founded in 1908, GM today employs about 280,000 people around the world. With global headquarters in Detroit, GM manufactures its cars and trucks in 33 countries. In 2006, nearly 9. 1 million GM cars and trucks were sold globally under the following brands: Buick, Cadillac, Chevrolet, GMC, GM Daewoo, Holden, HUMMER, Opel, Pontiac, Saab, Saturn and Vauxhall. GM’s OnStar subsidiary is the industry leader in vehicle safety, security and information services. More information on GM can be found at General Motors | Corporate Website | GM.
 
Thats not what I was told... a buddy of mine's dad was shopping around a few months back... around christmas or so to be exact. Looking at the yukon xl and the escalades. He was told by the salesman at a few different dealers that a 3/4 yukon xl was available with a dmax. Maybe it has changed but it was at the time... and I also believe that it was actually in the brochure as well. I heard all of this first hand from my friends dad, so its not a I heard this from that guy who heard it from them kind of thing...
 
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Thats not what I was told... a buddy of mine's dad was shopping around a few months back... around christmas or so to be exact. Looking at the yukon xl and the escalades. He was told by the salesman at a few different dealers that a 3/4 yukon xl was available with a dmax. Maybe it has changed but it was at the time... and I also believe that it was actually in the brochure as well. I heard all of this first hand from my friends dad, so its not a I heard this from that guy who heard it from them kind of thing...



Pretty sure that is incorrect. According to Chevy and GMC's websites it is not an option on any of their large SUVs (burban, tahoe, yukon xl, etc..... )
 
I agree with MHowell - I've heard there's never been a factory DMax option on the big SUVs.

I'm not sure it would be wise to build a "Ramhoe" or "Ramburban" right now. Are the Suburban/Tahoe/Expedition selling well these days? Seems like I see very few on the road.

People are downsizing due to fuel costs.

Ryan
 
I would have bought a Dodge version of the Expedition if they had one. Got the Expedition instead. It's ok, but not great. I think that Dodge missed the boat on the full size SUV market. It may be dropping now, but for 10-15 years, they missed it. An SUV built on the QCLB chassis with a Cummins would have sold like mad, I think.
 
I would have bought a Dodge version of the Expedition if they had one. Got the Expedition instead. It's ok, but not great. I think that Dodge missed the boat on the full size SUV market. It may be dropping now, but for 10-15 years, they missed it. An SUV built on the QCLB chassis with a Cummins would have sold like mad, I think.



YES Dodge missed the boat. The same way for years they missed the boat by not making a crew cab. 80% of the Fords and Chevy's I see are Crew cabs.
 
Dodge has always claimed that they did not want to scavange sales of the Jeep brand. To me that never made sense because they are just not the same truck. I have heard this explanation for a number of years.
 
Pretty sure that is incorrect. According to Chevy and GMC's websites it is not an option on any of their large SUVs (burban, tahoe, yukon xl, etc..... )



Either way I could care less... its not like i want one. Just passing on my account... :-{}
 
We had a Commander, ok vehicle if you like Hemi's. It needed to be about 4 feet longer and 1 foot wider with a Cummins under the hood and it would still be in the driveway.
 
IIRC, quite a few years back (maybe 10) Dodge was playing with a Expedition/Ramcharger type vehicle. I think it was called the Adventurer or something like that, but I guess they decided not to move forward.
 
Remember the Rescue show vehicle? Shortened 2500 Diesel chassis with Jeep Commander like body, seating for 7... . it would have seriously cut into sales of the Hummer H2 as well as the Suburbans/Expeditions/Tahoes.



I REALLY want one!
 
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