Winter blend in the Northeast.. already???

[DZink24]

Anyone know if we are on winter mix in the Northeast US? Of my last 400 miles, over 300 have been 65 mph on the Thruway. And continues to drop before my eyes. Isn't it a bit soon to be tossin' kero in the mix?? Last time I fueled was 9/23.

 

[Signal73]

Thats what Im thinkin. I was getting better mileage towing then I am now empty at 65mph. You throw in kero for better mileage?

 

[Mactruck]

You throw in kero for better mileage?

I believe thats what they add for the winter blend.



It does seem about the right time to switch over so they can get all the summer fuel diluted enough for the winter season.

 

[DZink24]

I just remembered too, I believe 10/01/06 is the mandated date for 100% ULSD to be implimented in the USA, that is not helping matters either, since that is basically a form of Kerosine

 

[Turbo Tim 1]

Hess has stickers on their pumps that say something about winter blend from October 1 through April 1. The ULSD is getting phased in from what I understand, meaning so much of the production has to be ULSD by this date and then so many more percent by the next date and so on. I think the guys that buy 07's are going to have a hard time finding true ULSD.

 

[BNH4221]

I'm thinking it is the ULSD not the winter blend. Been noticing a drop of about . 5 MPG lately. Winter blend usually drops the MPG by about 2.

Been fueling with pretty much all ULSD lately. Yuck.

Can't wait for the winter blend combined with ULSD. Should be getting about 3 MPG then. May even go into negative numbers :{



Steve

 

[Turbo Tim 1]

I have to coorect myself, I did a little more research and according to what I found as of October 15th 80% of the on road fuel has to be ULSD and since it would cause big troubles trying to have both most places most likely are just going to have ULSD. The figures I saw said a tank of LSD will need to be refilled 3-4 times with ULSD to be true ULSD, meaning that the fueling stations need to change over by the 15th so they have probably been getting the ULSD for a while to clean their tanks out. I'll bet BNH4221 is exactely right.

 

[BNH4221]

I'll bet BNH4221 is exactely right.

Would you please tell my wife that? It would be a first around here.



Steve

 

[TboneMan]

I talked to a fuel delivery driver on Labor Day weekend. The big tanks in the supply yards in Central New York had been run "dry" and only ULSD was flowing in the pipelines to refill the tanks. By now, any station with significant sales volume should have a high percentage of ULSD in their tanks.



I track my milage every fillup and I have yet to see any significant variation to date. Time will tell.

 

[SStiss]

Being a first time CTD owner, do I need to do anything differently with my oil with the new ULSD? Sorry for asking such an obvious question to most, but I'm unclear on what the effects will be and what I need to do to protect my investment.

 

[Turbo Tim 1]

I would have to say that the ULSD will be an advantage to your oil because it will burn cleaner, just use the proper spec oil and you'll be fine. I would add something to the fuel tank though whether it be 2-stroke oil or a diesel addative you'll need some more lubricity.

 

[jmorse]

My Texaco supplier tells my ULSD cannot be cut wth kero and we will need anti gell additive.

 

[Turbo Tim 1]

There is also ULS kerosene so I don't see why it can't be mixed.



http://www.factsonfuel.org/diesel/index.html

 

[paulb]

I talked to a fuel distributor here last week, and he also stated that they would not be able to blend kerosene for winter fuel. From what he said, it would no longer meet the lubricity spec's for diesel if they did. They are using Powerservice for anti-gel.



I have seen a drop in fuel economy and in power as well with the ULSD. Both in my pickup and in my diesel Jeep Liberty.



Paul

 

[dpuckett]

I have noticed a drop in MPgs as well. I thought it was likely a clogging filter, or injector pump heading south for the winter. All the pumps around here still have the 500ppm stickers on them, so it may not be ULSD. I have been running Howe's Meaner Power Cleaner in every tank, so lubricity shouldnt be much of an issue. No change in smoke or EGts to speak of.



Daniel