wire problem still a problem

[Ron Bissett]

Well I have tried to hook up the slide controller that replaced the model on my American Star fifth wheel , and it still will not work , found out the wires for the power and control will start to move the slide ,but still blow the fuse. Had a schematic of the (current ) 308 controller and wire placement . But the replacement I was sold is a Model 300 Yea. Will plead with Newmar to send me a new up date on what to hook up , The wires do not match the wires shown . Sure wish the box was a original not the Improved new model. Haven't heard from any one that has a 95 model like mine . Still hoping though . Thanks for any help . Ron Bissett in Metro Louisville KY

 

[Blu-meanie]

Did you use "Slo-Blow" fuses? Makes a difference.

I carry a circuit breaker with wires soldered to a blown fuse for problems like yours. If the circuit breaker works, wire it into the circuit and forget fuses. Radio Shack should have something useful, or an automotive electrical place.

 

[Ron Bissett]

Originally posted by Blu-meanie

Did you use "Slo-Blow" fuses? Makes a difference.

I carry a circuit breaker with wires soldered to a blown fuse for problems like yours. If the circuit breaker works, wire it into the circuit and forget fuses. Radio Shack should have something useful, or an automotive electrical place.

Thanks for the idea of the breaker Ill make one up . Still think that the box will not work unless the wires are hooked up just like the way they were on the original box and or jumped on one or more pins . The wire diagram that I received from a dealer was for a 96 and the wires were different and a jumper was used from one motor wire to a second motor wire ,I think that one motor wire is not hot all the time as mine is. Will try some more ,did get it to move some then fuse blew. The light on switch did not work half the time eather . Thanks again for your help . Ron Bissett in Metro Louisville KY

 

[Casey Balvert]

Ron, any idea what the slide motor is drawing? My 97 American Star motor only pulled around 5 amps. Does the slide move in and out ok when you disconnect the transmission and move it by hand? Perhaps the slide is binding and causing your problem? Or maybe a bad motor? Not sure if you had considered these or not. If the "new and improved" is the same as my 2004 maybe I can find you a wiring drawing.



Casey

 

[Ron Bissett]

Originally posted by Casey Balvert

Ron, any idea what the slide motor is drawing? My 97 American Star motor only pulled around 5 amps. Does the slide move in and out ok when you disconnect the transmission and move it by hand? Perhaps the slide is binding and causing your problem? Or maybe a bad motor? Not sure if you had considered these or not. If the "new and improved" is the same as my 2004 maybe I can find you a wiring drawing.



Casey

Talked to Mike at intellitec , he said I the box should work as I have it wired up the two hot wires go to the 12v pwr and 12v ctrl the two red to motor 1 and 2 white to ground Purple to mpx sw . mpx ground not used and ignition not used for my set-up. He stated that the gain is set about half of a possible 270 degrees and to increase if needed in small two to three degrees at a time . All so suggested a clamp on amp meeter will get one to marrow and test the motor as you both suggested . I have spotted one a the local Lowe's for about eighty dollars U. S Sure would like to have a rig like you have now ,time to start a move to beat the snow . Thanks for your help will let you know how it works out. Ron Bissett In Metro Louisville KY

 

[Ron Bissett]

Up date on the wire problem , wired the box as instructions. Tested with a battery ,in and out max amps with new calam amp meeter eight amps ranges from 0 to eight amps max . Hooked up the battery to trailer ,starts to move from all way out to all way close ,closed OK but would not stop motor had to use starts / stop switch . Then would not move as breaker tripped (thanks ) to Blue-minie for idea or mod to burnt out fuse. waited for breaker to cool ,then tried to move slide out ,slide made banging noise just like when it striped the gears, stopped the attempt to move it .

Took motor/gear box off and took it apart gears not striped ,tested motor on battery OK. Electric motor seemed to be OK Took it apart brushes OK wire looked ok One contact was burnt and I replaced the blade and put it all back on the gear box tested it seemed OK , the shaft was showing gauling and the lock sleeve was gauled some to match the shaft will get some emery paper in the morning and clean the shaft and lock sleeve . Will try to contact the Intellitec folks for more thoughts on what is causing the problem , While operating the slide the light on sw is not on just blinks one or twice . If I stop the motor it will not start on its own . Starting to plan on adding a manual crank through the back to the bumper with a bracket and go that way if no solution to the wire problem and or motor /gear box or controler , etc . Just hope the weather stays OK till I can get it fixed Ron Bissett in Metro Louisville KY

 

[Casey Balvert]

Ron, have you adjust the "Stop Adjust" rheostat? Maybe start at "Min" and slowly work your way toward "Max" in tiny increments until it kicks out when it fully closes or opens. I know that adjustment is very sensitive from experience with my 97. When the slide stops and the motor stalls the current draw goes up and this adjustment determines how much current will kick out the relay in the controller.



You have probably already done this but thought I would try to cover all the bases. It doesn't sound like it was kicking out the controller when the slide closed all the way. Good luck.



Casey

 

[Ron Bissett]

Originally posted by Casey Balvert

Ron, have you adjust the "Stop Adjust" rheostat? Maybe start at "Min" and slowly work your way toward "Max" in tiny increments until it kicks out when it fully closes or opens. I know that adjustment is very sensitive from experience with my 97. When the slide stops and the motor stalls the current draw goes up and this adjustment determines how much current will kick out the relay in the controller.



You have probably already done this but thought I would try to cover all the bases. It doesn't sound like it was kicking out the controller when the slide closed all the way. Good luck.



Casey

Well Ive tried that too seems like some thing is still stuck or Gremlins are in there . I will give a try Saturday when the Wife is here ,to day I have Ben working on a way to extend the manual way of closing the slide ,as a back up , don't like to get under the trailer to wrench it out and in . I will have a shaft through the back facade and braces to the rear bumper where bracket will hold the shaft the shaft will have a end that will fit the motor locknut I will just stow the motor till trade time or when I get a round toit . them roundtoits are hard to come by. Thanks for all your help , December will be snow bird time so I still have time to get it fixed. Are you heading South for the winter with the new rig. ? Again thanks Ron Bissett in metro Louisville KY

 

[Casey Balvert]

Ron, Good luck. Not going south until April. Still have to work for a living. Put the new rig into storage this afternoon. Hate when that happens.



Casey