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Hmm, cute. Glad this one got bumped, as I was just thinking of tackling this problem, and this looks to be a bit more elegant than the solution I was considering (grabbing a pulse from the starter circuit to latch the switch).

If I read this correctly, when you turn on the key, the cigar lighter circuit goes hot and energizes the relay coil, which will connect pins 87 (which has nothing hooked to it, here) and 30. When you hit the starter, the cigar lighter is de-powered along with the rest of the accessory stuff, the relay coil de-energizes, and pins 87A and 30 connect -- having the same effect as pushing the EB switch -- with the resistor keeping you from getting too much current on what could be a sensitive ECM discrete input. Release the starter and it's like letting go of the button again.

Clever. About the only thing I could think to add would be a diode across the relay coil pins to take care of the collapse current when the power's shut off; but that's probably overkill, as it's connected to the cigar lighter, and I imagine that's used to seeing some pretty chunky power loads from all the stuff that gets plugged into it.

This should work for any other momentary-contact switch on the truck, just by doing the same with thing another relay (don't try switching a lot of things off the same relay) and wiring pins 87A and 30 across it instead of the EB switch.

--Ty
 
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Just as an FYI,

I tried this on my 2010 MY and the wiring was totally different. There we no wires coming off the back of my switch. The only way I can really describe it is that the entire switch panel is one piece as opposed to several different pieces with wires coming off them. I admit I didn't have a ton of time to explore this but it didn;t appear to be as easy on the newer trucks.

Craig
 
I connected mine a little different. I took pin 85 and ran a wire through the firewall and connected it (thru a 5 amp fuse) to the yellow/gray starter solenoid wire at the top of the firewall to the left of the brake booster. Instead of connected resister wire to pin 87a I connected to 87. This way the relay is only energized during cranking and turns the EB on. Relay will last a lot longer not being powered all the time. I have remote start and the EB comes on since the relay is powere by the starter wire.
 
Just as an FYI,



I tried this on my 2010 MY and the wiring was totally different. There we no wires coming off the back of my switch. The only way I can really describe it is that the entire switch panel is one piece as opposed to several different pieces with wires coming off them. I admit I didn't have a ton of time to explore this but it didn;t appear to be as easy on the newer trucks.



Craig



Craiggo you are correct. Starting with the 2010 (forsure and mayber earlier) the EB switch is just a computer key that sends a signal out on the CanBUS (think of an intranet for your truck) to the ECM to turn on/off the EB. This wiring trick will not work on the newer trucks. All of the switches and controls are nothing but computer keys.



Kevin
 
I tried hooking it up as the instructions state. I tested it before soldering everything together and it seemed to be working. After I got it all soldered together it wouldn't work. The relay activates as it should. The resister reads 15 ohms. The EB won't come on automatically.

I can activate it by using a jumper (no resistor) at the solder joints.

What does the resister actually do? I am assuming it is mimicking the ohms resistance the switch creates.

Any ideas?
 
I'll assume that when the switch is pushed, it grounds the circuit telling the ECM to activate, am I wrong ? So the new two position switch (on/auto) works the same just grounding circuit each time switches through the positions ?
 
Just one thought.
is the Anti Lock System still be able to turn that brake off in case of slipping rear tires??.

If not that would be a very dangerous modification.
 
Just one thought.
is the Anti Lock System still be able to turn that brake off in case of slipping rear tires??.

If not that would be a very dangerous modification.

You can still manually push the button again and turn it back off.

I planned to install a switch inline to activate the auto feature when I want (fair weather months) once I got the system working properly.
 
Craiggo you are correct. Starting with the 2010 (forsure and mayber earlier) the EB switch is just a computer key that sends a signal out on the CanBUS (think of an intranet for your truck) to the ECM to turn on/off the EB. This wiring trick will not work on the newer trucks. All of the switches and controls are nothing but computer keys.



Kevin

Has anyone figured out a solution to this for the 2010+ models?
I wish it was as simple as doing a relay.
Could it be set with a tuner to turn on with ignition.

jordan
 
Judging from the way the evic and radio react, it appears to be a momentary push button the does the activation in the computers. It does stay on when I am towing the 5th wheel. So looks like they could program around it if they wanted to.

Like Ron says, but your seat belt on and push the button! Snoking
 
On a very cold motor you don't want it on until the engine has a change to build oil pressure, warm the cylinder walls, etc...

Having it cycle as soon as the engine starts would accelerate engine wear, as well as soot in the oil.
 
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