Wish me luck. 6.4 Super Duty in my bay.

[Wayne M.]

Thanks JR. The same thing would have happened with either truck , big but the navistar engine makes the repair a real ordeal.

 

[BIGNASTY]

two guys that own Fords that I know for sure what they are one is a 7.3 that had no turbo from factory good motor he put a Banks turbo kit on it and its just as good as the other guys 1ton Ford, 2000 with the 7.3. these guys USE!!! their trucks they aren't some 4x4 that's NEVER seen an off road day in it life.

A close friend has the so called POS 6.4 he takes care of it, has put on extra filtration and drives like a Caucasian, pulls his horse trailer with it and HAS HAD ABSOLUTELY NO PROBLEMS!!!!

Rare? could be, I dont know but one thing about all 3 of these trucks they have had not one problem with any of the drive-lines because of "P" Poor design. normal maint, Yes of course, but all are very high mileage trucks

 

[JR]

The 7.3s are good motors. Good in the sense of reliability. Still expensive to repair and modify and get poor fuel economy, but in stock form will run til the wheels fall off and then some. I also have a good friend who owns an oil field maintenance company with a fleet of Fords. The trucks see alot of abuse, get drug through the mud everyday, and are often ran from the first time they are started at the shop until they get parked at the end of the day. Hes had a 6.0 that has seen a few hpop failures along with injector issues a d headgaskets. Currently its one of those blue ovals sitting in the weeds, its not that he cant afford to fix it hes just sick and tired of beating a dead horse and is trying to decide what to do with it before making the SAME repairs again.The 7.3s he has has been flawless. The only real problem I can think of that hes had are multiple GP issues, once you lose more than 1 or 2 of em you can almost forget them things starting in cold weather.
Wayne I know your on the clock but I would love to see some pics if time permits for you.

 

[Regcabguy]

My contractor neighbor has an F-350 4x4 6.4 that is a daily driver. He's never had that thing back to the dealer for repair. 85K

 

[Wayne M.]

JR, I didn't start yet as parts are trickling in. I got some other irons in the fire, so I don't know when boss men will want to get this party started...

Thinking way back, the fords always had issues. Especially cold starting issues. I won't forget back when I was doing sidework at an Ambulance company, and we were cozy with the EMT's and there was constant woe over the cold starting of turbo and non turbo fords (timeframe/ the 7.3 was the new deal). Here I am with my 'ol '92 CTD, and it's the going home routine, and one EMT catches on to my truck and hears the flawless cold start of the 5.9. WELL they couldn't believe THAT was a diesel, especially the less automotive inclined EMT's ("WHY CAN'T THE BUSES DO THAT?!") Also, is anyone familiar with the fan belt routing of the 7.3 in an E350 app? There's like 15 pulleys and ya gotta pull hoses to change a belt. (just sayin)

Please guys. I didn't want this to be a total bashfest, but more of an educational deal- for all of us (especially me) and to reinforce what I believe is that I own the superior product in the market segment.
I feel the same about the post 7.3 Super Duties as I do with asian vehicles; They're good out of the box and until there's a problem, they're solid. We have hundreds of 6.0, 6.4, 6.7 fords doing all kinda things. Most of them run great. This one is sick, and the remedy is tough.

 

[DonFitzwater]

"This one is sick, and the remedy is tough."

Sometimes you have to eat a big turd sandwich when you wrench for a living.....................................It's just an occupational hazard when working on junk for a living!

 

[jgillott]

JR, I didn't start yet as parts are trickling in. I got some other irons in the fire, so I don't know when boss men will want to get this party started...

Thinking way back, the fords always had issues. Especially cold starting issues. I won't forget back when I was doing sidework at an Ambulance company, and we were cozy with the EMT's and there was constant woe over the cold starting of turbo and non turbo fords (timeframe/ the 7.3 was the new deal). Here I am with my 'ol '92 CTD, and it's the going home routine, and one EMT catches on to my truck and hears the flawless cold start of the 5.9. WELL they couldn't believe THAT was a diesel, especially the less automotive inclined EMT's ("WHY CAN'T THE BUSES DO THAT?!") Also, is anyone familiar with the fan belt routing of the 7.3 in an E350 app? There's like 15 pulleys and ya gotta pull hoses to change a belt. (just sayin)

Please guys. I didn't want this to be a total bashfest, but more of an educational deal- for all of us (especially me) and to reinforce what I believe is that I own the superior product in the market segment.
I feel the same about the post 7.3 Super Duties as I do with asian vehicles; They're good out of the box and until there's a problem, they're solid. We have hundreds of 6.0, 6.4, 6.7 fords doing all kinda things. Most of them run great. This one is sick, and the remedy is tough.

Man that brings me back. I started in the Fire/EMS business in the early '90's. The first unit I had was a mid 80's 6.9L Ford. It ran OK, but we literally wouldn't dare shut it down during our shift if it was below 40 outside.

 

[TFucili]

Man that brings me back. I started in the Fire/EMS business in the early '90's. The first unit I had was a mid 80's 6.9L Ford. It ran OK, but we literally wouldn't dare shut it down during our shift if it was below 40 outside.

That's amazing, we owned two 6.9s, an '86 and an '87. They were both oil guzzling, trouble plagued turds, but the only good thing I can say is that they always started without block warmer down to about 0'F. The '86 did eat glow plug relays like jelly beans, but the '87 never had a cold start issue.

 

[jgillott]

That's amazing, we owned two 6.9s, an '86 and an '87. They were both oil guzzling, trouble plagued turds, but the only good thing I can say is that they always started without block warmer down to about 0'F. The '86 did eat glow plug relays like jelly beans, but the '87 never had a cold start issue.

IIRC, the one I drove was an '86 and it had ~290K on it when I started running it in '91. I have no Idea if the glow plugs even considered working on that thing.

 

[Wayne M.]

OK, here we go. For inspiration, I found and watched this series of you tube videos. I gotta give it to Ford for packaging this thing. I just can't believe how many layers are involved, and the basic engine is buried further down than it seems.

 

[MLee]

In The link to the Max Force 7, by Navistar, It looks to be a verticale bank on the left side and a 60* on the right bank. Is this true on this configuration? seams wierd that a V8 would be set up like this.

 

[MLee]

There are a handfull of Internationals around here running around with this powerplant. I'm assuming they are one and the same.

http://www.internationaltrucks.com/trucks/engines/maxxforce7

This the quote that I was after. Sorry about that

 

[Wayne M.]

OK! we have liftoff! Really this has been quite an ordeal. The upfitting this truck has had made the job quite complex due to the installer overlaying and mingling his hardware between what goes up with the cab and what stays on the chassis. Of the 6 cab bolts, 3 cage nuts spun despite all the prep I went through. The rocker panel pinch is contact point where the lift is done- the 4 extreme corners- and my lift wouldn't pull back enough, so we had to crib with wood. Being it's a regular cab, it's so front heavy, a tie strap is absolutely mandatory to keep the rear from coming up, I have a screw post under the front as a safety. As of now, it's in the air, and now I will dig into the engine. Pictures to follow.

 

[Wayne M.]

 

[jgillott]

Approximately how many hours to get to this point?

 

[Wayne M.]

less than a week.

 

[Bill Lins]

The upfitting this truck has had made the job quite complex due to the installer overlaying and mingling his hardware between what goes up with the cab and what stays on the chassis.

Wayne, what kind of vocational rig is on this chassis? I can't tell from the pics.

 

[JR]

Bet ya would rather work on this queen...:-laf

The orange should give it away

 

[RVTRKN]

What gives Wayne, didn't we all read in blogs about how much easier it was to lift the cab for repair, and it would only take a couple of hours. Did I miss something, for the reason it took almost week?

 

[Wayne M.]

Guys, my employer (check profile "about me") has a tough social media policy, so I gotta be careful. But if you google some pictures after you see, it'll be obvious. Let's say this bugger is busy in the winter.

Yes JR, we have suggested that this particular unit should have been configured as that vehicle! Don't forget that this ain't no cowboys baby and it ain't exactly new. So what you see on YouTube isn't always the WHOLE truth!