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The United States could reduce its oil use by approximately 800 million gallons and carbon dioxide emissions by 8 million tons annually, if Americans purchased diesels at the same rate as Europeans, Dieter Zetsche, President and Chief Executive Officer of Chrysler Group, said today. To encourage American acceptance of diesels, Zetsche announced that Chrysler Group will test the North American market with a diesel-powered Jeep® Liberty vehicle beginning in 2004.



At the DaimlerChrysler Innovation Symposium in New York, Zetsche also called on regulators and oil refiners to work together to resolve diesel emissions challenges that will be tested by new tailpipe standards that will go into effect in 2006.



"The best way to show our commitment to work together is to bring a modern, clean diesel passenger vehicle to market, which we intend to do," Zetsche said. "We would like to see the oil refiners commit to producing and distributing high quality, low-sulfur fuel as soon as possible, while the government creates incentives for fuel producers to get clean diesel fuel to the market before the deadline. "



While DaimlerChrysler offers a range of diesel-powered passenger vehicles in Europe, where approximately 35 percent of vehicles are powered by diesel engines, the Jeep Liberty will be the first light-duty sport-utility vehicle with a diesel powertrain to go on sale in the United States and Canada.



"Today's modern diesel vehicles should be part of the solution to improving fuel efficiency and reducing carbon dioxide emissions," Zetsche said.



"Diesels lead to up to a 30 percent improvement in fuel economy, while reducing carbon dioxide emissions an average of 20 percent. "While there are legitimate concerns about the particulate matter and oxides of nitrogen (NOx) exhaust from diesels, the introduction of high quality, low-sulfur diesel fuel will enable a reduction of these emissions," added Zetsche.



Zetsche said that, on average, diesel fuel offered in Europe is six times cleaner than that offered in the U. S. , due to a much lower sulfur content extracted during the refining process.



The diesel Jeep Liberty will be powered by a 2. 8-liter common rail turbo-diesel engine produced by DaimlerChrysler. It will be available with a manual or automatic transmission, as well as two- or four-wheel drive. It is expected that the diesel-powered Liberty will have up to a 30 percent improvement in fuel economy, versus a comparable gasoline-powered Liberty.



DaimlerChrysler currently offers diesel engines in its Dodge Ram heavy-duty trucks in North America. Approximately 75 percent of all Dodge Ram 2500/3500s sold in North America are powered by diesel engines.



But diesel acceptance as the fuel of choice in high-volume passenger vehicles in North America has been another matter, thanks in large part to some ill-fated attempts in the 1980s to introduce diesels here. "The technology of the time left a bad taste in the mouths of many," Zetsche said, "and a lot of bad memories of smokey, smelly, clattertrap cars.



"But today's clean diesels are surprisingly refined and comparable, category for category, to gasoline-powered vehicles. " Around the world, the Chrysler Group currently offers diesel powertrain options in the Jeep Cherokee (Liberty in North America), Jeep Grand Cherokee, Chrysler PT Cruiser and Chrysler Voyager minivans. In Western Europe, diesel-powered vehicles comprise 56 percent of Chrysler Group's total sales volume.



Jeep Cherokee vehicles with diesel powertrains currently account for 65 percent of that model's total sales in Western Europe.
 
We just bought a Jeep Liberty couple months ago. If they would of had the diesels out yet I probably would of got one. It might turn into something like the VW TDI's. Only if they would of put that 4cyl Cummins in them:eek:
 
I was very impressed with the performance of the 5spd jetta TDI when i test drove them. I would think with some minor bombs it would be a great car. Honestly I would be looking at a jetta wagon over a diesel liberty. 45+ MPG is really inviting. :D
 
ToolManTimTaylor- you might say I have been in a bombed TDI. I went up to Coppers Cove to this fellows house that had a Vagcom that was going to do the egr mod for me on my NB. He is a Up Solute rep for that area. His wife had a Jetta and he wanted me to drive it so I did. It reminded me of the 69 Dart Swinger 340 I had back in 69. When you push the go pedal in his wifes car it was gone:eek: He drove a Golf(think thats what it was or maybe it was a Jetta:confused:)and he had done more mods to it. From what I have heard from the people in this area that is one fast TDI:--)

Best mpg I have got on my NB was yesterday when I filled up(1. 679) 53. 9:eek: thats not too bad for a NB considering they are the most unaerodynamic of the three with the TDI. I hear people withs golfs/jettas getting 60+:{
 
But diesel acceptance as the fuel of choice in high-volume passenger vehicles in North America has been another matter, thanks in large part to some ill-fated attempts in the 1980s to introduce diesels here. "The technology of the time left a bad taste in the mouths of many," Zetsche said, "and a lot of bad memories of smokey, smelly, clattertrap cars.



Can anyone say general motors????????:eek:
 
Originally posted by lschultz

ToolManTimTaylor- you might say I have been in a bombed TDI. I

Gotta go for a rip in one with injectiors and a VA and a Bassini exhaust :eek: Thursday I went for a ride in a Gulf wagon ... ... . All I can say is Whoodathinkit?
 
TDI Envy

I've driven the TDI in the NB and the Jetta. On the stock models I am very impressed with the flexibility and RPM range of the motor. I encourage anybody looking for a car to consider these; reasonably priced too. There is a VanAacken Box for these, readily available...

There is also confirmation that the Toura-whatever that it will be available with the V10 TDI as early as 2004. If that isn't good enough, there are very strong indications that VW will offer the Passat with a 2. 0L TDI in 2004 or 2005.



Also did y'all hear the woman! who called into Click and Clack on NPR this morning that is currently running her TDI on 20% biodiesel? Seems that wasn't good enough for her, as her question regarded her intended use of 100% biodiesel... apparently she has arranged to have a fuel supplier deliver!!! 55g drums of the stuff to her with a free hand pump!

HONEST! They don't make these calls up... . do they?



Now if I could only get my wife to give up her BMW (or switch it in the middle of the night for a Euro 745 Twin Turbo Diesel!!! Think she'd notice?
 
I wrote to chrysler awhile ago. I told em if they stuck the 4 banger cummins in the dakota that Id buy one for sure. I was suprised to read about the liberty. 150hp just seems a little shy of the mark for me. But if you guys are saying the the 90 hp VWs are rippin it up maybe Im way off.

LOL Whodathunkit. I thinky you ought to go get a trademark on that one. Itd be great for a 250 hp tdi. Id like to see one of those suped up.
 
Forgive me for I have sinned-When Ford announced that they would be selling an F-150 with a small diesel engine I was gonna buy some for my construction company. Now that that bubble has burst I bough a couple of v-6 (2002 Dodges) stick shifts. Hell my son drove a 92 CTD for 2 days with no coolant:rolleyes: and only fiquired it out after the guys on the jobsite kept asking him what was burning. :--) NO HE WON'T INHERIT MY COMPANY:cool:
 
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