2nd Gen Non-Engine/Transmission Yukon Gear introduces CAD delete kit for 94-99 trucks

[HHhuntitall]

Just thought it might be helpful to some people. I'm not sure of the cost, yet. I'll let you know when I find out more.....



http://yukongear.com/PartsList.aspx?SearchMode=Search&SearchType=Part&SearchPhrase=YA+W2603

 

[HHhuntitall]

Looks like they're gonna run $280-300 retail... .

 

[JMcCoy]

That's awesome. I have already done the Ford free spin conversion. Now I need real axles. This will be my next puchase. Good looking out.

 

[AH64ID]

That's awesome, I am not a fan of the CAD axles.

Yukon makes some great parts, I just installed their Spin Free kit and it's a very nice piece.

 

[rMetzger]

Would be simple as a brick, but would cost a few MPG and more wear and tear on the front diff..... unless can do hub conversion, as well. Would then be very mo'bettah.

 

[AH64ID]

I am not sure it would cost a few mpg, the free spin conversion kit is only good for about 10% (and that keeps everything from spinning). The trucks with CAD are still spinning the stub shafts, u-joints, and differential but not the drive shaft.

 

[NIsaacs]

and differential but not the drive shaft.

Are you sure? I think it does turn, or the axle gears and spider gears would self destruct over time. I think there is enough resistance there to turn the ring and pinion, not full speed but some.



Nick

 

[HHhuntitall]

Depends on oil viscosity. The spiders take most of the abuse. The inner shaft turns much easier than the ring/pinion, so the two shafts turn in counter rotation. With good oil, it doesn't wear TOO bad... When cold, it will turn the ring/pinion slowly until it warms up some, then it's all on spiders. With the CAD unit, that is... ...



If you run in 4x4 a lot, like some do, then it's a good kit. Or if you HAVE TO HAVE 4x4 at any given moment... . I've done this several times on older trucks, using late model shafts and spider gears. I still suggest locking hubs, and if you already have them, it's a good upgrade to eliminate the CAD. They offer the kit with thier locking hub kits, as well. Just a lot of expense for some.



The biggest problem I see with the full time axle is the front driveshaft wear and pinion seal leakage. Seems the double cardan, H units, are the weakest wear related item. :squeak: :squeak: :wobble:

 

[AH64ID]

Are you sure? I think it does turn, or the axle gears and spider gears would self destruct over time. I think there is enough resistance there to turn the ring and pinion, not full speed but some.

Nick

The CAD vehicles I have owned, 3 different ones, never spin the driveshaft. The spider gears do there job and the short shaft on the CAD side of the differential is going backwards (just like picking an axle up off the ground and spinning one tire, the driveshaft doesn't move but the other wheel goes the opposite direction).

 

[Regcabguy]

A friend is going to go the lever activated Posi-Lok system on his '95. I seem to remember owners having issues with this setup.

 

[AH64ID]

We had a posi-lok on our 92 Chevy and it was much better than the OEM setup.

 

[rMetzger]

A friend is going to go the lever activated Posi-Lok system on his '95. I seem to remember owners having issues with this setup.

Lever-actuated? Mine's on a giant, super-duper choke cable with a spring-loaded lock knob.

 

[Regcabguy]

Lever-actuated? Mine's on a giant, super-duper choke cable with a spring-loaded lock knob.

Sorry,misspeak(I sound like a politician).

 

[cerberusiam]

The only problem i see is the quality. Yukon is not known for its high quality stuff. Sourcing from too many offshore manufacturers tends to dilute the aspect of the product.

Iwould never use another Yukon gear set even if I was given them. Makes me wonder more than a little about these shafts and durability.

 

[AH64ID]

The Yukon Spin-Free kit I just installed appears to have amazing quality. The lockout hubs are the most stout pieces I have ever used.

I have never used their gears.

 

[HHhuntitall]

The only problem i see is the quality. Yukon is not known for its high quality stuff. Sourcing from too many offshore manufacturers tends to dilute the aspect of the product.



Iwould never use another Yukon gear set even if I was given them. Makes me wonder more than a little about these shafts and durability.

Really? I haven't had any problems in around a dozen gear sets I've sold... Not major problems, that is. One set want's to make a lot of noise, and at first I thought it was my setup job, but running grease around the ring gear shows I've got the contact correct, they're just not beveled quite right... . After about 13k miles it's begun to get a lot quieter.



What kind of problems have you been seeing Cerberusiam? With the Yukon sets, I mean. I've used several sets (2 installed, another on the shelf) of the 3:42 AAM gears for the Dodge trucks, and I'm not sure how many Dana sets I've used..... 4-5 sets in some Jeeps, and probably the same in various other projects around here... . What am I going to have to fix??!!?!?

 

[JMcCoy]

If people were having problems with Posi-loc, they either installed it wrong (hard to do), or operator error. The biggest mistake people make is they try to engauge the Posi-loc before putting the transfer case in 4wd. Like stated above, the right axle is spinning backwards due to the spider gears. You need to engauge the transfer case first in order to get everything spinning the right direction. Yukon is a well known and respected name in the off road industry. I do hate t hear they are out-sourcing though. 35 spline chrome-moly axles will be stronger than stock 30 spline axles, with the CAD, no matter who made them. . 02

 

[cerberusiam]

running grease around the ring gear shows I've got the contact correct, they're just not beveled quite right... .

That is the problem I have beenn unlucky enough to have on 3 sets. Kept thinking setup and it is the gear set. One chewed itslef up completely the others just noisy. Then, I and others have used them with no problems. Hit or miss on the quality. Started talking to others and looking at forums and see the same pattern. Some swear by them and others call them junk, based on experience.

Yukon is a big name, used to have outstanding parts from all I gather. Quality has slipped on some stuff just like others. NAPA gold used to be a quality standard, not anymore.

 

[HHhuntitall]

Hmmm, I've been seeing that with all the brand names the last few years. I got some gears straight from Dana about 2. 5 years ago, and had the same problem with factory gears... . I got stuck with the labor for defective parts..... They didn't self-destruct, but they made enough noise you thought they would..... I can't blame the customer for wanting another set. I've got them in a box, waiting on some project of my own... . I got a used set out of the boneyard that worked great, and are still running quietly..... GO FIGURE!! I installed a Dynatrac front axle in a Jeep last year, and it makes noise intermittently when engaged, whenever the gear fully engages. Not a big deal, and the owner doesn't complain, as long as any metal shaving don't come out with the oil... . Dynatrac says it's "normal" on occasion. It's just the gear set. One of my first gear jobs was in an '84 Prospector, and after years of use and abuse, it still drones and howls at highway speeds. Never any metal, so I guess I did it right, but it's noisy as all get out.....



If China ever goes broke, what will we do for parts!!?!??!??!? It's getting pretty sad.