New F150 to tow 11,000

[hammersley]

OK guys I've asked this before and when you think about it a big rig hauling 80,000 lbs will be down to 25-30 on a very big hill---and that's acceptable for the trucking industry - what is aceptable for towing an 11,000 lbs with an f-150 gas rig - I mean will it be at 35mph or 25 -- surely not 55 over the big mountain passes!!!!!



http://media.ford.com/newsroom/release_display.cfm?release=25153



The 2007 Ford F-150 has now been engineered to tow even heavier loads - up to 11,000 pounds - more than any other half-ton pickup.

 

[MRosinski]

And ford thought that they had alot of warranty claims with the 250-550 psd's:-laf Ford is going to have to start carring spare 150 trannies and rear ends on the shelf.

 

[InfernoB]

Having just switched from Ford to a Cummins Truck..... Dodge Ram I mean.

I think one will have to stip the truck down. I noticed on the fordvehicles site that this is a reg cab 4x2 with a GCVW is 15,300 a 5. 4l and 4. 10 gears. You will still have to strip the truck.

I once had a many Ford trucks..... But a reg cab with a 4. 6l barely towed my stang. And then I hit a hill. Good luck.

 

[CJ8Rockcrawler]

It is pretty much the same story with the New Tundra... I believe it is rated at 10k lbs towing capacity...

 

[klenger]

There was a thread on rv.net about this. It appears that this F150 is actually an F250 in disguise.

 

[RVTRKN]

It is pretty much the same story with the New Tundra... I believe it is rated at 10k lbs towing capacity...

Only with the big engine and 33K sticker, I was looking at them yesterday when I had work done on my wife's Yaris and was shocked at the prices. If you take into account that my 3500 C&C CTD 4X4 is at 42K. I believe you can get a 4X4 Hemi C&C for the same as a Tundra. You will only see them driven by Yupies who think they are with the "IN" crowd, I can't even imagine what they will cost with the new Diesel they are supposed to have in 08.

 

[DiTrani]

The gassers can pull these load pretty well. They just have to spin at ~5K rpm to do it, drinking gas like it's free.

 

[MRosinski]

The gassers can pull these load pretty well. They just have to spin at ~5K rpm to do it, drinking gas like it's free.

But for how long

 

[y-knot]

I don't doubt for a minuet that they can tow 11,lbs, it just depends on how comfortable you want to be while towing.



I use to tow a tag trailer that weighed just over 10,000lbs with a 1500 V-8 Chevy short bed. Sure it towed the load, but it was not comfortable. I was always on the lookout for any situation where I had to stop quickly, and the take off power was not very good. Once it's rolling, sure anything can tow, but take off and hills just kill the thing.



The diesel, with it's HD chassis and gobs of torque is so much better suited for towing. The trip become fun and your not all knotted up while driving. You know you have the power to merge, pass and motor down the highway like nothing else out there. The brakes are designed to handle the extra load and are very comforting, throw in a exhaust brake and there is no hill to fear.

Ford upped the towing claim to be on top of the 1/2 ton truck wars, they had to do it to stay ahead of Toyota. Ford it really on the ropes, and needs this extra advertising gimmick to sell there trucks. Funny thing is I would believe that Toyota could actually handle the load better then the ford, they have always been more honest in there fuel mileage and performance claims then the domestic market has been.



Like anything else, it all comes down to what works and feels best to you. For me and my new 16,000lb trailer, it's diesel all the way. I run the 4. 11 gears and love the extra torque they supply. For me, towing ease takes precedence over maximum mileage. But don't purchase a new truck with there supper high 3. 42 gears and expect the same performance, those gears are for the commuter crowd that only use there trucks to go back and forth to work, not work or tow.

 

[J Shocik]

From what I've been reading, Ford has to find something to tow with, their PS's can't do the job... :-laf

 

[WestTN]

Don't get too excited just yet. Wait until the limitations are known. What will the maximum allowable frontal area be? What is the maximum speed? What kind of maintenance schedule will br required? How about temperature range?

 

[JKinney]

The sadest part of this is People will buy them to tow 10 grand, and not have the load loaded properly, or not rigged to tow the weight properly, like to much toungue weight, and the results are tragic.

 

[Foil Freak 1211]

Most people never tow anything near what the truck is rated to tow - CTD owners included.



Doesn't the Tundra have right around 400 ft/lbs of torque? That is only 50 ft/lbs less than a 2nd gen CTD. Plus, it has over 100 more HP. I imagine that the Toyota will do OK towing the typical load a 1/2 pick up buyer will use it for. The Ford I wouldn't bet on.

 

[Bertram65]

Most people never tow anything near what the truck is rated to tow - CTD owners included.



Doesn't the Tundra have right around 400 ft/lbs of torque? That is only 50 ft/lbs less than a 2nd gen CTD. Plus, it has over 100 more HP. I imagine that the Toyota will do OK towing the typical load a 1/2 pick up buyer will use it for. The Ford I wouldn't bet on.

I bet the new Toyota would do better accelerating or holding a hill than my truck towing my 10k 5th wheel, but I doubt it would stop as well or be as stable. I went and looked at the new Toyota the other day, nice, but it comes on P rated tires, huge disk brakes but tiny calipers. I bet the engine is the most powerfull in any gas pickup available today especially when coupled to the new 6 speed they have, 1/2 ton, 3/4 ton, or 1 ton.

 

[Giachino]

Wonder how the old tundra will do on the gas mileage front?? My wife's 06 sequoia gets between 13 and 14 mpg unloaded, uphill, downhill, sideways, doesnt matter 13 to 14 mpg..... and it weights less (guessing), has a 5spd auto (so missing one gear)..... and a smaller va (4. 7l 283hp)... . so even if they thru in some magic, there's no way it'll compete with a diesel on mileage..... also on the previous post why do you think it will out accellerate / hold a hill better? 6spd auto?..... 200+ lbs of tq have to count for something... .



I will say i'm excited for when they modify the sequoia as i know my wife will want one..... although i want her to get a torague (sp?)... . just to keep it diesel!

 

[16919]

200 lb/ft more???? I have 650 lb/ft more:-laf :-laf :-laf

 

[Bertram65]

Wonder how the old tundra will do on the gas mileage front?? My wife's 06 sequoia gets between 13 and 14 mpg unloaded, uphill, downhill, sideways, doesnt matter 13 to 14 mpg..... and it weights less (guessing), has a 5spd auto (so missing one gear)..... and a smaller va (4. 7l 283hp)... . so even if they thru in some magic, there's no way it'll compete with a diesel on mileage..... also on the previous post why do you think it will out accellerate / hold a hill better? 6spd auto?..... 200+ lbs of tq have to count for something... .



I will say i'm excited for when they modify the sequoia as i know my wife will want one..... although i want her to get a torague (sp?)... . just to keep it diesel!

My truck struggles to tow 10k on hills, I have to be sure to keep the RPMs up over 2k or it just slows down till it drops out of OD.

I have 4. 10 gears, a Quadzilla box, intake, and exhaust, by the numbers it is great but real world not so great.

It only feels marginally stronger than my old GMC towing my 5k lbs boat.

I have driven other 3rd gen CTD trucks and stock ones feel slower than mine so I am pretty sure it is not my truck.

It is very stable and brakes well but power wise for all the power it is susposed to have it does not feel that strong.

 

[Giachino]

Interesting. I don't tow much, but the last time i did i had a very long flatbed race car tailer with 2 sand rails on it and 2 quads..... and three dirtbikes in the back... . no idea of the weight, would guess at least 7k+ lbs... . didn't cross too many hills, but it'd absolutely haull ***** with the trailer on the back... . we were in the middle of no where and i was following to empty gassers doing 75+ w/o issue???... . maybe hills highlight the disadvantage of the 4 spd auto?

 

[Bertram65]

Interesting. I don't tow much, but the last time i did i had a very long flatbed race car tailer with 2 sand rails on it and 2 quads..... and three dirtbikes in the back... . no idea of the weight, would guess at least 7k+ lbs... . didn't cross too many hills, but it'd absolutely haull ***** with the trailer on the back... . we were in the middle of no where and i was following to empty gassers doing 75+ w/o issue???... . maybe hills highlight the disadvantage of the 4 spd auto?

Could be the auto, but in OD the TC is locked up so all the power is getting through, my 5th wheel is pretty tall too so I am sure that slows it down some also. Short hills are not so bad it is the long 2 mile plus ones that are the killers.

 

[JRMora]

My truck struggles to tow 10k on hills, I have to be sure to keep the RPMs up over 2k or it just slows down till it drops out of OD.

I have 4. 10 gears, a Quadzilla box, intake, and exhaust, by the numbers it is great but real world not so great.

It only feels marginally stronger than my old GMC towing my 5k lbs boat.

I have driven other 3rd gen CTD trucks and stock ones feel slower than mine so I am pretty sure it is not my truck.

It is very stable and brakes well but power wise for all the power it is susposed to have it does not feel that strong.

Wow, sorry to hear that. My 6 speed with 3. 73's tows our 14,000# fiver fine - even in the hills. It's a high profile (13' tall) unit, too. BTW, your final gear ratio (4. 10's and 48RE) shouldn't be far different from mine (3. 73's and NV5600)



I added the Quad for a little extra oomph. I never have it above the 60 hp setting when towing. We came out of Laughlin last summer (the climb towards Kingman, AZ is a long and steep climb). Even running at close to 23,000#, we were able to maintain 55 mph all the way up. We were pushing 1250°, but never over. Passed lot's of semi's and quite a few RV's.



Over 2000 miles in 9 days, and averaged 10. 96 mpg (hand calc) for the trip. That included the climb out of San Bernadino, CA on our way to Vegas. Plus over the hill in Flagstaff (I-40). And the long climb out of Needles towards Barstow.



I suspect you've got a weak engine or a transmission that's not hooking up. Either that, or your GMC was a monster.



Juan